OVWP Interview 31 Zachary D Pittman III: Shutter Fly
Greetings good citizens. This is Super Z and you're listening to the OVW podcast. The unofficial podcast of Ohio Valley Wrestling.
Jackman Ochs:Welcome to the OVW Podcast, the unofficial podcast of Ohio Valley Wrestling. My name is Jack Winose. I'm joined today, as always, by my colleague, Brian Hines.
Brian Hines:Hey, folks. Good to be here again.
Jackman Ochs:It's a Thursday in the feed. You know what that means. We have an OVW, how should we describe you actually, Zachary d Pittman? An OVW journalist? An OVW, photographer?
Jackman Ochs:What how would you describe yourself?
Zachery D Pittman III:First off, it's, Zachary d Pittman the 3rd.
Jackman Ochs:Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Sorry.
Zachery D Pittman III:I am a, freelance photographer for OVW. Yes. I take pictures. I I do promo pictures. I do, action shots.
Jackman Ochs:Sure.
Zachery D Pittman III:What whatever they need at OVW, I I'll do it. You
Jackman Ochs:know? So I I ask this question to everybody. It's a great place to start. You you have this this passion for journalism, this passion for photography. What led you to OVW?
Zachery D Pittman III:You know, I just I I seen that's the place that
Brian Hines:that's the place to be right now. I mean,
Zachery D Pittman III:that's the place that needs a photographer.
Brian Hines:Sure. You
Zachery D Pittman III:know what I'm saying? Like Yeah. They they need more photographers there, and I I was just I'm just glad I was there at the right time.
Jackman Ochs:Well, and a lot of people on the wrestling side say the same thing. OVW is the place to be. OVW is the place I need to be at. OVW is the place to go. For you as a photographer, someone that's, you know, focused towards wrestling photography at the moment at least, it seems like it it's an obvious fit.
Jackman Ochs:Right? You someone needs to, document what's happening at OVW during this historic time.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's pretty cool. And and it got its perks. Like, this this week, Al Snow, he gave me a job.
Zachery D Pittman III:Mhmm. I I'm going to be, an investigative journalist.
Brian Hines:Oh, cool.
Zachery D Pittman III:He wants me to take a look at Omar and Luscious. So, hopefully, they don't listen to the show. Right.
Brian Hines:I don't think they do.
Zachery D Pittman III:I think they're
Brian Hines:Yeah. They they probably don't.
Jackman Ochs:They probably don't. They might. They we have a weird relationship with Luscious and Omar. Let's move on. Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:So whenever, you know, Al, he can be kind of intimidating guy, and you're not from the wrestling world. Right? You you get thrown into this this job. Right? This this, this beat of OVW.
Jackman Ochs:What is it like to work with Al? What is it like to have Al very intimidating man. Yes. We know from experience.
Zachery D Pittman III:Very, very large. That that graspy voice is scary. Mhmm. So, yeah. I just I just I don't wanna upset him.
Zachery D Pittman III:I don't wanna disappoint him. I'm I'm scared about. So Sure. I'm I'm just trying to do the best I can.
Jackman Ochs:Well, you know what helps with nerves a little bit is a drink. We have poured you a drink right here. My colleague has one as well. I have one. We always like to have guests no matter whether the wrestlers or freelance journalists or investigatory journalists, and you're sit and your, your example here.
Jackman Ochs:We always like to offer people a toast here, and we were wondering if if you would like to partake with us.
Zachery D Pittman III:What kind of what kind of drink is this?
Jackman Ochs:This is, this is, straight bourbon whiskey finished in army act barrels from rare character whiskey. Thank you, Chad and Pablo.
Brian Hines:Yes. Thank you very much.
Zachery D Pittman III:Okay. Okay.
Jackman Ochs:So if you I mean, you can grab it. It's it's okay.
Brian Hines:There's no pressure.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. No
Brian Hines:pressure. If you feel so inclined to join us, you are more than welcome
Zachery D Pittman III:to. Absolutely.
Brian Hines:Alright. Well, cheers. Nostrovia. Oh gosh. Are you okay?
Brian Hines:Are you okay? Oh my gosh. Are you alright?
Jackman Ochs:Is it can Malachi can you go get a a towel or something a glass of water please?
Zachery D Pittman III:What is that?
Jackman Ochs:And and Malachi, whenever you get that glass of water, can you please give it to our guest here?
Brian Hines:Oh. It's, straight bourbon whiskey and apparently it is,
Jackman Ochs:It's finished in Armagnac.
Brian Hines:Yeah. It is finished in Armagnac.
Zachery D Pittman III:I'm I I didn't mean to disrespect you guys. It's
Jackman Ochs:No. We just went out. No. No. That's a yes that's a yes.
Jackman Ochs:We wanna make sure you're okay. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Malachi. Thank you, PS.
Zachery D Pittman III:Thank thank you so much, sir. Oh, that just burned, guys.
Brian Hines:It it has a tendency to do that a little bit.
Jackman Ochs:So I'm gonna assume
Brian Hines:Are you alright?
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. I I'm good, guys. Thank you.
Brian Hines:Okay.
Zachery D Pittman III:Thank you, guys.
Jackman Ochs:I don't want forgive me if, maybe I'm I'm stepping on your feet here a little bit, but I'm gonna assume Zachary d Pittman the third maybe not much of a partier here.
Zachery D Pittman III:No. I'm I'm a bit of a a social outcast. I I stick to myself.
Jackman Ochs:Sure.
Zachery D Pittman III:I'd like Sure. I like to be behind the camera. This is the first time I'm really in front of a camera. It's kinda different, You know? I it's strange to me.
Zachery D Pittman III:And, yeah, I don't I don't really partake in the party scene. People give me anxiety.
Jackman Ochs:And, again, I don't I don't mean to be disparaging here. Was that the first drink of alcohol you've ever
Brian Hines:had in
Zachery D Pittman III:your life? Oh, that was alcohol. Yes.
Jackman Ochs:Yes. Yeah.
Brian Hines:Alcohol. That's
Jackman Ochs:what bourbon is. Yes.
Brian Hines:Oh. Bourbon. We're in Kentucky. It's kind of a big deal here.
Zachery D Pittman III:I have never drinking alcohol in my life. Yeah. That was my first drink.
Brian Hines:Oh, wow. You're in I guess we should have,
Zachery D Pittman III:maybe given that up. Is that gonna make me drunk?
Jackman Ochs:Well, you spent most of it out.
Brian Hines:So Probably not.
Zachery D Pittman III:Okay. You guys sure?
Brian Hines:Yeah.
Zachery D Pittman III:Okay.
Jackman Ochs:I hope I I'm I hesitate to tell you a 100% yes, but I have a feeling that you're gonna be okay, mister Zachary Pittman.
Brian Hines:Yeah. I I think that you probably, got maybe 10% of that drink down. So, you'll probably be fine.
Zachery D Pittman III:So I'll be alright?
Jackman Ochs:I think I think so. I think so. We can
Brian Hines:get you something to eat afterwards just to be sure. Hatch our beds.
Zachery D Pittman III:Awesome. Thank you, guys.
Brian Hines:Yeah. It was a great place
Jackman Ochs:right before.
Zachery D Pittman III:Sorry too. I I really didn't mean to
Brian Hines:disrespect. No. No. No. No.
Brian Hines:No disrespect.
Jackman Ochs:Trust us. We've been much
Brian Hines:We're sorry that you you I mean, it was just not your thing.
Jackman Ochs:We've been much more straightforwardly disrespected on this very program before. So you that trust us. That was not disrespect at all.
Brian Hines:No. Not at all. It's just a natural reaction to something that you weren't expecting.
Jackman Ochs:What is speaking of not expecting this no. No. No. I'll come back to that. What got you into photography, Zachary?
Zachery D Pittman III:Well, believe it or not, my mother, she had me very young. And, she was a big fan
Jackman Ochs:Same here.
Zachery D Pittman III:Wrestling. Big fan. So, like, I naturally, I grew up watching the TV, you know, watching the WWF
Brian Hines:and stuff right back in
Zachery D Pittman III:the day. And and, back in the day, all the photographers would be around the ring. And when when I saw that, I just knew that, like, photography for wrestling was my calling. I I knew that's what I was gonna do with my life, and I seen all the flashes, and I just this is what I wanted. I wanted to take pictures for professional wrestling.
Jackman Ochs:And you it never occurred to you to maybe wrestle instead of being a photographer?
Zachery D Pittman III:Oh, I'm I'm way too, frail for that.
Jackman Ochs:Sure.
Brian Hines:Sure.
Zachery D Pittman III:I can't I can't be getting thrown around. You know?
Jackman Ochs:No. No. No.
Zachery D Pittman III:I don't wanna get hurt.
Jackman Ochs:Sure. Sure. Sure.
Brian Hines:What else do you like to take pictures of besides, wrestling? Like, if if you were you know, it's a hobby as well. I mean, it's something that interests you. If you're not covering OVW, what sorts of things do you like to take pictures of? For example, I like to take pictures of people taking pictures.
Brian Hines:So if you're here taking a picture of something, I would like to take a picture of that because it's been my hobby going back to, like, 1st grade.
Zachery D Pittman III:That's amazing. That's that's art. That's art.
Jackman Ochs:Do you know, can you explain to us, like, what do you know what the rule of of thirds? Do you know what that is?
Brian Hines:No. As a photographer I
Jackman Ochs:know that you no. Listen. You do know what it is because all of these photographs that I've seen that you've taken at your time at OVW, it's been a short time, and it's it's ironic because there's this other guy that showed up, around the same time that you showed up. But I've seen your pictures. I've seen your pictures.
Jackman Ochs:When you're taking a picture,
Brian Hines:what do you what
Jackman Ochs:are you trying to gain? What are you trying to tell the viewer? Right?
Brian Hines:That's a good question because every picture tells a a is a thousand words.
Zachery D Pittman III:You know, I'm just, I'm trying to I'm trying to show the the true beauty and art of professional wrestling.
Jackman Ochs:Sure.
Zachery D Pittman III:And, yeah. That that's what I look for.
Jackman Ochs:As Zachary d Pittman The third. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. As Zachary d Pittman the 3rd. I didn't wanna disrespect you at all.
Jackman Ochs:I'm No. You know. I'm so Okay.
Brian Hines:We we have to get this straight. It's Zachary d Pittman the 3rd.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Yes. The 3rd.
Jackman Ochs:Yes. As Zachary d Pittman the third, you know, you you wanna tell a story. Right? You you wanna entertain the people. Right?
Jackman Ochs:So you get brought into professional wrestling. What is it about photography, professional wrestling photography, that makes you the best person for the job at OVW?
Zachery D Pittman III:You you could say I'm always at the right place at the right time.
Jackman Ochs:It's interesting that you mentioned that because the guy that I just alluded to, there's this cat running around super z everyone loves them everyone loves them everyone's in love with them kids adults, grandmas, grandpas
Brian Hines:Podcast hosts.
Jackman Ochs:Podcast hosts. Everyone's in love with the super z guy, but for some reason, as a photographer and this is your job. I understand. I understand.
Brian Hines:Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:You you manage to always take the best shots of of Super z. You always manage to be in the same place that Super z is at. How do you have that as a journalist? Is that natural to
Zachery D Pittman III:you? Well,
Jackman Ochs:the whiskey's getting to you a little bit. Yeah. Sorry. My throat.
Brian Hines:We might need a refill on the water, Malachi. PS.
Jackman Ochs:Please, Malachi.
Zachery D Pittman III:What was your question again, sir? I'm sorry.
Jackman Ochs:As a reporter, is it is it is it happenstance? Is it is it circumstance, or is it complete coincidence that you always manage to be in the same place that this new character's super z is at. This new this new character that has taken over the minds and imaginations of OVW, regardless of age, regardless of gender, regardless of of any of those other qualifiers.
Zachery D Pittman III:Thank you.
Jackman Ochs:Super z is has become very, very, very well loved character in a very short amount of time, and it seems like you were always in the right place to tell his story. Well, how it can is that journalistic? If if
Zachery D Pittman III:you go back, to the, to the OVW, YouTube channel, you can watch the, episode of Overdrive Wrestling where they, Brian Kennison interviewed me. Mhmm. And, he asked me all sorts of questions about Superz too. I don't know why everybody keeps asking me questions about him.
Brian Hines:But Well,
Zachery D Pittman III:as a kid a lot. But, like I told Brian Kennison, me and Super z, we, we grew up together.
Brian Hines:Okay.
Zachery D Pittman III:And, Okay. Yeah. I used to get picked on a lot in school and, you know, he he was my friend that stuck up for me. He was there for me. He always showed me that no matter what, if you put your mind to it, you can always do it.
Zachery D Pittman III:He taught me that. And it was just valuable lessons like that. And I like he just he's helped me out so much that, you know, I'll I'll be there for him if he needs me. And if he needs good pictures, I'm the guy that will get him them good pictures.
Jackman Ochs:It's just it, to be honest with you, man and I'm not trying to grill you. You are a really great guy, and we really appreciate you coming by. And it's very obvious you wear your heart on your sleeve. You're you're as as earnest as the day is long. But it seems like Zachary d Pittman,
Brian Hines:the 3rd 3rd.
Jackman Ochs:The 3rd has a different relationship with all of the other wrestlers in the locker room than he does with z d or with Super Z, and I guess I'm just kind of curious. You get treated like dirt by the Bad Girls Club. Right?
Zachery D Pittman III:They still have not paid me.
Jackman Ochs:You get relegated to That's why they're
Brian Hines:bad girls.
Jackman Ochs:You get pushed out of the way by everybody. You get bullied by everybody that you run into. But somehow, you have this relationship with Superz who seems to be, at this point, unstoppable and unbeatable. He's pretty good. How did you guys, like I guess I'm just curious.
Jackman Ochs:Why did he choose you?
Zachery D Pittman III:Well, I guess You
Jackman Ochs:said you were friends from from school. That's fine. That's
Brian Hines:fine. Guys go way back.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. And and, you know, super z always does what's right. Mhmm. He sticks up for the little guys. Mhmm.
Zachery D Pittman III:And me, you know, just being a photographer at OVW.
Jackman Ochs:Being a little guy?
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Like, he he helps me out, you know. Sure. And, yeah. Like, that, that creepy guy, Dimone.
Zachery D Pittman III:He
Jackman Ochs:mister Salavino.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. He he was creeping on me and, like, I don't I don't know what that guy wants with me. I've I've never even shot photos for him.
Brian Hines:He was, wasn't he?
Zachery D Pittman III:He was smelling me and he called me out to the I'm not a wrestler.
Jackman Ochs:Well, and I I
Zachery D Pittman III:think photographer. I don't wrestle. And and and if you're trying to challenge me, that's unfair. I can't I can't stick up for myself.
Jackman Ochs:Well, it's
Zachery D Pittman III:Super z, he he steps in and he helps me.
Jackman Ochs:It's a little ironic because I feel like, mister Salvino is the type of guy that if you take a picture of him much like a vampire in the mirror, he's not gonna show up. You know, he he is from this other world. He is from this other land.
Zachery D Pittman III:He'd Tell you the truth. I'm I'm really just scared he'll break my camera.
Jackman Ochs:Mhmm. That is a very nice Nikon.
Brian Hines:He he does seem like the he he's very feral, very, you know, very much, like,
Zachery D Pittman III:Unsafe work environments.
Brian Hines:Yeah. Yeah.
Zachery D Pittman III:You know? There was a guy that used to bite people, you know? He there that's a scary group of people.
Brian Hines:Don't Yeah. You're not fooling.
Jackman Ochs:Didn't he run did he he ran with the guy that used to bite people, he ran with the Nephilim for a little bit. Right? That That's right here. That was before you arrived.
Brian Hines:Yeah. That was before your time.
Jackman Ochs:But it was A few
Brian Hines:months ago.
Jackman Ochs:It was OVW. OVW has been in the topic of national conversation over the last year, most most of the last year because of the Netflix series, you know, stuff like that. So it's not like you were unaware. It's not like you you didn't know what kind of environment you were walking into. Was there anything about the Netflix series that kind of made you say, Zachary d Pittman the third, I need to be here?
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. I just it's an amazing place, OVW, and Netflix told an amazing story. And I'm not I just knew I wanted to be a part of it.
Jackman Ochs:Absolutely. And now you are. And now you are actually one of the biggest parts of it week in week out because you were telling that story to the viewers and listeners of of OVW, week in and week out through your photography.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:Absolutely. What's your favorite scenario? And, you know, feel free to get as wild with this as possible. Let's let's hear something that maybe we've never heard before on, podcast air. What's your favorite photograph that you've taken, and what's the story behind it?
Zachery D Pittman III:There's this really good good shot of super z coming off the top rope Mhmm. At the at the double cross.
Brian Hines:Mhmm. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Zachery D Pittman III:And, he was coming off the
Jackman Ochs:top. Orion. Right?
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. He's facing that Orion guy. Yes.
Brian Hines:Yeah. That was a good match.
Zachery D Pittman III:The guy wears
Jackman Ochs:a mask too, so it kinda works out.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. And,
Jackman Ochs:super z.
Zachery D Pittman III:Super z.
Jackman Ochs:Super z.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Yeah. He looked at Orion.
Jackman Ochs:He looked at Orion from the air, please?
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Orion's always telling people to look at him and Sure. Super z at the top of the ropes looked at him, and I I got the picture.
Zachery D Pittman III:And you can see the reflection of Orion's face. Utter fear as super z crashes down justice on Orion. It was beautiful. It was a beautiful picture.
Jackman Ochs:In your yeah. Obviously, you have a great relationship with Super z here. And, I you know, sometimes I call Superz the wrong thing too. So it's okay. You obviously have a very special relationship with Superz.
Jackman Ochs:What are some of the other wrestlers in OVW that you love taking photographs of that maybe you have a special relationship with that you love looking forward to meeting?
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Absolutely. Well, first off, Cal Hero. You know? Cal Hero, what a great guy that Yeah.
Zachery D Pittman III:He's such a great guy.
Jackman Ochs:After last night, I don't think I'm ever gonna be saying anything negative about Cal Hero on this podcast ever again. But, yes, I've I've been a big Cal fan for several years and I I he's he's an amazing wrestler. He's an amazing guy. He really truly is, but, my my character on this thing kind of trashes Cal sometimes and I think Oh
Zachery D Pittman III:my goodness.
Brian Hines:I think
Zachery D Pittman III:not Cal Hero.
Jackman Ochs:I think I got called out by Cal personally last night. So we'll we'll, we'll Cal hero is great. Well, Cal hero is great.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Yeah. Cal hero is amazing. No nepotism.
Jackman Ochs:No. No. No. He's amazing. No.
Jackman Ochs:Never again. No ever again.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Cal Cal Hero, just terrific. That Luke Curtis, he was the former OVW champion. Yeah. Luke Curtis, solid fella.
Jackman Ochs:Mhmm.
Zachery D Pittman III:I've got some great shots of him too. Yeah. Gosh. Luke Curtis is great.
Brian Hines:He is.
Zachery D Pittman III:Who else is? Tony Gunn. Tony Gunn. Shotgun. Tony Gunn.
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Oh, like, oh, it gets me going every time I hear the music. I just I love it. And he had that beautiful baby girl. He
Brian Hines:sure did.
Zachery D Pittman III:It's amazing. It's just
Brian Hines:for him.
Zachery D Pittman III:And those are just some of the people. Sure.
Brian Hines:You
Zachery D Pittman III:know, they're just they're they're good guys, you know.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. Absolutely. No. I mean
Zachery D Pittman III:w has a good squad. There's a there's some there's some questionable fellas back there though. Let me tell you,
Brian Hines:there's
Zachery D Pittman III:there's some real mean people.
Jackman Ochs:You're someone who's been bullied all across the backstage at this point.
Zachery D Pittman III:I I
Jackman Ochs:have. Zachary d Pittman the third.
Zachery D Pittman III:I have. Dalton Mackenzie.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. Which was kind of a shock to us. You I learned this this past week. This man actually used to work with Dalton Mackenzie prior to Dalton McKenzie's professional wrestling career.
Brian Hines:Oh, I
Zachery D Pittman III:feel bad for you.
Brian Hines:You probably had to
Jackman Ochs:shove in your lockers,
Brian Hines:didn't you? No. Actually, we worked in different departments and he was, he was out on the road quite a bit and I was, busy making phone calls. So I'd Well,
Zachery D Pittman III:lucky you.
Brian Hines:I would see him some, but I can I can see where, he can he can be a little rowdy sometimes as far as that goes?
Zachery D Pittman III:He's a scary fellow. Yeah. Pretty big.
Brian Hines:Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:And you're such a little guy. Yeah. Like, and then, like, and and that's not me. This is something that you stated in this conversation. This is something you stated in this conversation.
Jackman Ochs:And then, a monster, a behemoth, a barn of a man, like, don't, like like
Brian Hines:Dalton McKenzie.
Jackman Ochs:Dalton McKenzie. I almost call him Donald Cecil. He's even bigger a barn man. A guy like Dalton McKenzie comes up and starts bullying you, but it seems like you have I don't wanna I'm sorry for implying anything. I'm but it seems like you have this guardian that comes around in the form of super z.
Jackman Ochs:And he he kind of corrects the situation between you and Dalton very quickly. Have you run into Dalton since he ran into super z?
Zachery D Pittman III:I have not. I have not had any problems with Dalton McKenzie. I I haven't had any problems with the Donovan or, Dimon. Dimon, not Donovan.
Brian Hines:Sure. Sure.
Zachery D Pittman III:I had no problems with
Jackman Ochs:See, it's an easy it's an easy mistake to make. It's like
Zachery D Pittman III:a lot
Brian Hines:of these.
Jackman Ochs:Whenever, you know well, let me ask you this. What do you think about Orion? We just talked about him a little bit, but I wanna hear what you know, you said you said some nice things about him. What does Zachary d Pittman The 3rd. Think about Orion?
Zachery D Pittman III:I just I think he's confused. I I think he's a I think he's a a man that doesn't know what he wants, so he lashes out in negative ways. And
Brian Hines:Mhmm.
Zachery D Pittman III:I I feel like that can come off harmful to people, like, it can come off rude and
Jackman Ochs:Do you think that super z is a person who knows what he wants?
Zachery D Pittman III:Yeah. Yeah. I feel like super z is a a man that knows exactly what he wants.
Jackman Ochs:Maximo Suave, what do you have to say about him?
Zachery D Pittman III:Just, I think he's another guy with a just he has a negative attitude.
Jackman Ochs:Sure. I
Zachery D Pittman III:feel like he's a guy that that's been doing this a long time and just doesn't feel like he gets the rub he's supposed to, and and he he lashes out against people that, you know, like, don't have nothing to do with it.
Brian Hines:Sure.
Zachery D Pittman III:And, like, for me, like yeah. I'm I'm lucky super z was there. Do you do you
Jackman Ochs:think that super z ever feels like he's been doing this for a long time and he hasn't gotten the right rub? You know him better than anybody.
Zachery D Pittman III:I think that super z just wants to do what's right for OVW.
Jackman Ochs:Mhmm. And on the way out here, thank you for joining us.
Brian Hines:Yes. Thank you so much.
Jackman Ochs:Completely wonderful. We're glad
Brian Hines:to have
Zachery D Pittman III:had you. Absolutely. Thank you, guys.
Jackman Ochs:So much. It's been a
Brian Hines:Sorry about the drink, by the way.
Zachery D Pittman III:Absolutely okay.
Jackman Ochs:Do you mind to plug your social medias for
Zachery D Pittman III:us? Say that again?
Jackman Ochs:Do you mind to plug your social medias for us?
Brian Hines:My social medias? If we were to want to see some of your photographs or, just keep up with you personally? Are are you on Facebook? Or,
Zachery D Pittman III:you guys, actually, I I have to get out of my stomach's really bothered.
Jackman Ochs:Hold
Brian Hines:on one sec. I think the
Zachery D Pittman III:because the whiskey I'll I'll be hold on. I gotta go, guys.
Brian Hines:Oh, gosh. Oh, okay. Well, then okay. Thanks.
Jackman Ochs:Well, that was an interview.
Zachery D Pittman III:Oh, man.
Brian Hines:I I I feel bad about that.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. We might have gotten him a little. This is this is not unsimilar to whenever we give PS whiskey that he's not supposed to have.
Brian Hines:Yeah. He he he is of age.
Jackman Ochs:So this has been the OVW podcast, the unofficial podcast for Hollywood wrestling. Love you guys.
Brian Hines:Nice to see you soon.
Super Z:Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, it's Super C, and you can find me on social media, The Real Super
