OVWP 33 “Contenders” Covering OVW Rise 1281 February 29, 2024
This is Superior Tony Evans, and you better hush because you're listening to the OVW podcast, the unofficial podcast of Ohio Valley Wrestling.
Brian Hines:Welcome to the OBW podcast, the unofficial podcast of Ohio Valley Wrestling. I am Brian Hines, and I'm trying to reach you about your extended warranty.
Jackman Ochs:That's it. This is daddy Brian Hines. I am Jackman Oakes. We are joined today, we're getting into all the action from OVW Rise 12/51, which originated, broadcast originally from historic Davis Arena on February 29, 2024, leap leap day of leap year this year.
Brian Hines:That's that's true. At, at my house, it is known as, the Grand Dwap McSkoughen, but, it's a family holiday. We'll get into that some other time.
Jackman Ochs:Since we're mentioning that this was a leap day, we did have a a we wanna take a moment to celebrate and say congratulations to Tony Gunn's, wife and and him giving birth this past, week yes to
Brian Hines:a healthy baby girl
Jackman Ochs:to what the OVW faithful have been referring to as baby gun and if I have leap year math right that means she will be 16 technically when she's 4?
TyniBrian:Yes.
Brian Hines:Yes. That is that.
Jackman Ochs:Is that okay. I I can't I couldn't remember exactly how leap year worked.
Brian Hines:Yeah. That's
TyniBrian:it. We get one of them every 4 years, the same year as the presidential election and the Summer Olympics. It's a big year.
Jackman Ochs:Depending on who you ask. Big but big year big year for Tony Gunn and his wife. Maybe for the rest of the world, Summer Olympics and in an election are an impending doom but congratulations that's that's seriously awesome glad to
Brian Hines:hear congratulations that is a hell of a way to celebrate a leap day
Jackman Ochs:talk about jumping the gun Well, you can have that one. I'm not gonna touch that one.
Brian Hines:There you go.
Jackman Ochs:We also had a couple of big we don't talk about the bigger wrestling here all the time, but anytime that there's wrestling deaths, it affects the whole industry, affects everybody from top to the bottom. So we would like to say that in this past week we lost Virgil
Brian Hines:Yep. Soul Train Jones.
Jackman Ochs:And, Ollie Anderson. Yes. Did you ever have any run ins with Virgil?
Brian Hines:He was at the cavalcade of customs 1 year in in Cincinnati and I didn't make it over there to see him. But I I I didn't get a chance to talk to him, but, yeah, I did see him over there.
Jackman Ochs:I had one run-in with him and, like, god bless Virgil because, really, he he leaned into that kind of grifter thing towards the end.
Brian Hines:Like Yeah. Like And he was funny.
Jackman Ochs:And he was really, really funny. Like, god bless him. Like, he was he had his gimmick table set up right at the entrance to a GCW show.
Brian Hines:Nice.
Jackman Ochs:And, I saw him there and I said to my friend, we need to go the other way because what this man does is comes up, takes a picture with you, and then charges you the 20 dollars for it, which is, like, great. I just love how much he kind of, like, leaned into that that, like, grifter gimmick there towards the end, man, setting up his, autograph table on Vince McMahon's star on the walk of
Brian Hines:Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:Name, just like all kinds of great stories like that Mhmm. With Virgil towards the end. And one of, like, the biggest characters from that explosion that WWF explosion too, you know, that late eighties, early nineties WWF scene. So
Brian Hines:That's true.
Jackman Ochs:And then Oli Andersen, of course, like, one of the all time great bookers in the history of wrestling.
Brian Hines:Part of the Minnesota Wrecking Crew.
Jackman Ochs:Mhmm.
TyniBrian:Really this Arn's brother?
Brian Hines:No. I thought so for a long time.
Jackman Ochs:They are cousins
TyniBrian:I I was gonna say because
Jackman Ochs:in kayfabe.
TyniBrian:Oh, okay. Yeah. Arn and Ollie, if one parent came up with both those names that they need to be talked to. That's all I was saying.
Brian Hines:Well, I don't think it would matter now because if Ollie was how how
TyniBrian:Yeah. Probably the mom's mom's gone.
Brian Hines:Yeah. They're they're probably long gone or, you know, too old to understand what you're saying.
Jackman Ochs:But this is a guy that kind of really helps to define what the identity of Southern Wrestling is. So really easy to say that wrestling wouldn't be the same without him and his impact on it and that o v w, you know, southern wrestling at its finest kind of some one of the finer southern wrestling promotions going on right now wouldn't be the same that it is without Oli Anderson's impact so we did want to take a moment to touch on 2 big debts in the wrestling industry over this past week. Let's see. Our coverage of OVW Overdrive starts this week. Is that right, Brian?
Jackman Ochs:Is that you and Vic's show?
TyniBrian:Yep. We are, we're gonna do that tomorrow probably. So that'll be in your inbox, I believe, Wednesday. That'll be in your podcast feed Wednesday evening, Thursday morning. I haven't decided exactly when I'm gonna release it yet.
TyniBrian:Won't be nearly as big as this, probably 15 or 20 minutes, just to cover the action of what went on in overdrive.
Jackman Ochs:And Overdrive is we've said this before, but it bears repeating. Overdrive is the new name of what was formerly called the OVW preshow.
Brian Hines:For the dark matches. The dark matches
TyniBrian:So, yeah, they still have what they call the preshow, but it's just they come on for a few minutes since before the actual show show starts. And they just say, here's what's going on. And, you know, which just kinda Linda Kaye and and, and Josh to the camera this week.
Brian Hines:Okay.
TyniBrian:But, yeah. So they still have that. But in the the the overdrive, which we all saw because we were there at least and I were there when they opened the doors on Thursday.
Brian Hines:We were there early.
TyniBrian:Yes. And they they are starting now at, like, 6 15.
Brian Hines:Okay.
TyniBrian:And they're doing so they can do a half an hour of matches and still have a few minutes, but they are not as near as I can tell, they're not being broadcast live at all anymore. They're you have to wait till Tuesday to see those.
Jackman Ochs:And this is the show too that they are hoping maybe can be a secondary show on broadcast, not
TyniBrian:just on YouTube. Right? Right. So call your local cable companies and television providers if you would like to see OVW Overdrive on TV.
Jackman Ochs:And, Brian, you're a big you're a big collectibles guy. You're a big, autographs guy this weekend in Lexington. This has got to be, like, a big thing for you. Right? Something like a Comic Con in your backyard.
Jackman Ochs:Yard.
Brian Hines:Yeah. If I'm not, really careful and, selective because you know how I am with things when we go to OVW. Mhmm. I want all the things. I I want a picture from everybody.
Brian Hines:I want all the cool shirts, all that stuff. But, you know, I'm I'm not made of money yet because of the podcast. So I've gotta, like, pick and choose a little bit. But, this weekend is definitely gonna be big folks because it is the Lexington City Comic Con, March 7th through 10th. The OVW is coming to the Comic Con, and so are we.
Brian Hines:Yes.
TyniBrian:Somehow we got credentialed.
Brian Hines:Yeah. We are
TyniBrian:We're a real media group. We're journalists, guys.
Brian Hines:We are journalists. And, if you see me out there and I am wearing one of my favorite shirts, my Gonzo Muppet shirt, That means I am a Gonzo journalist. So OVW will have wrestlers and personality
Jackman Ochs:I'm a leave you the hang of that one, man. You go you got that one.
Brian Hines:Uh-huh. That's what I thought of at when I bought the shirt was, the fact that you had used that term a couple times when you were talking about, interviews and things we had done. So there you go.
Jackman Ochs:But we will be there this weekend. That's March 7th through 10th if you're catching up on this retroactively. Sorry if you missed it. If you're catching up on this live as it hits your feed, there might still be time. I'm pretty sure there's still time for you guys to attend if you would like to we will be there o v w will be there tons of great pop culture guests tons of great wrestling specific guests If you're a vendor bring your best Sailor Moon stuff.
Jackman Ochs:Did you see the good news, bad news?
Brian Hines:No. So the bad news MJF had to drop out.
Jackman Ochs:It's a work, but,
Brian Hines:but they have a replacement that I would very much love to talk to because Friday would mark his 38th anniversary debut with WWE. Any idea who that would be?
Jackman Ochs:Who would that be?
Brian Hines:That'll be Jake The Snake Roberts.
Jackman Ochs:Really? Yes. Wow. One of the one of the, like, first wrestling personalities I remember from my very limited experience in wrestling in my early life.
Brian Hines:That's right. So we may be able to, catch a word with him. And I don't know. I honestly don't know how the Comic Con is going to go, because this is the, first for us. I've been, but I've never been in a any sort of journalistic or broadcasting capacity.
Brian Hines:So I'm sure we will have, tons of additional random material and maybe a word or 2 from this person or that person, but, it's gonna be interesting to see, what who we might run into. So stay tuned.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. I have no idea what to expect, this weekend as we enter the Comic Con. OVW is going on tour this, spring into the summer. I'm sure more dates will be released, as as time progresses, but the three dates that we have right now are Nashville, Tennessee on April 26th, Du Plains, Illinois on May 31st
TyniBrian:Yes, ma'am.
Jackman Ochs:Longport, Indiana on June 1st. I think I will actually be at the Nashville show. I'd take any excuse to go to Nashville. Wrestling is usually the excuse I use, so figure why not. Hopefully, we'll have a little bit of special content if I actually am able to go from that weekend.
Jackman Ochs:That'll be fun. And then back at Davis Arena, every Thursday, March 16th is this month's pay per view.
Brian Hines:Yes. The, March mayhem.
TyniBrian:Which we have tickets for already.
Brian Hines:That's what I hear.
Jackman Ochs:And if you do not have tickets to any or all of VW events and you'd be interested in attending you can find your tickets at ovwtx.com
Brian Hines:that's right
TyniBrian:so one more thing about events. I did hear a rumor that it looks like SummerSlam may be coming to Columbus.
Jackman Ochs:Ohio?
TyniBrian:Yes.
Brian Hines:What? Interesting.
TyniBrian:Which, generally I mean, I know we don't generally talk about that company.
Brian Hines:Moya and Terresante.
TyniBrian:But, generally, around an event like SummerSlam, isn't there a lot of indie wrestling that kinda goes on on the periphery?
Jackman Ochs:Yes. As someone who's gone to the, like, big 4 weekends but never attended the big four event, there is no shortage of wrestling. Any kind of wrestling you wanna see from every promotion on the face of the planet. It's it's a lot of fun.
TyniBrian:In fact, at the end of wrestlers in the the TV show, wrestlers, they were at Nashville because Summer Slam was there.
Brian Hines:That's right. That's right.
Jackman Ochs:That was when they you see the Ric Flair's last match thing. That Ric Flair's last match was scheduled specifically around SummerSlam weekend.
Brian Hines:That's where you see, certified Luke Curtis propose
Jackman Ochs:to yeah. Down in Nashville. Mhmm. Down in Nashville. What I I I won't this will be great for them to go back, in a capacity of OVW.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah.
TyniBrian:I'm kinda hoping OVW will go do a show up there around around SummerSlam. We'll we'll go up there and cover
Brian Hines:it. Yeah. If if we that's the case and SummerSlam is there and we go up to cover it, I I got people, and we can go see places. We gotta go see, like, Big Fun Columbus to check out the toy selection or, we're
TyniBrian:gonna be looking at dolls all day, Jackman.
Brian Hines:Hey. It's action figures, dick.
Jackman Ochs:I've had some of the craziest nights in my entire life in Columbus, and I've only been there once. So I've go I'll go back I'll go back gladly. Go back anytime. We'll cover all of the action from OVW Rise 1281 right after
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Jackman Ochs:Welcome back to the OVW podcast. My name is still Jack Noakes. He is still daddy Brian Hines. Bout 1 here, Brian Hines, big beef versus Dustin Jackson.
TyniBrian:Can can one thing we we skipped in the first act? Can I
Brian Hines:Oh, well, yeah? Can I do it? I saw it.
TyniBrian:Oh, Brian Behance knows what
Jackman Ochs:he is.
Brian Hines:I know exactly what you're talking about. Before we get into this week's coverage, we need to go back and, thank superior Tony Evans for coming to talk with us. Definitely. That was a wonderful episode, and we we did get the the hush at the end. We we got the payoff, and we got to talk about all kinds of other things in between.
Brian Hines:And, we would just like to say thank you, Superior Tony Evans, for spending time with us. And our next interview is one that, I I found wildly
TyniBrian:been on pins and needles waiting for this to drop.
Brian Hines:This has been wild this was a wildly entertaining interview for me, and I'm not one who sings because I don't like the sound of my voice, and I couldn't carry a tune with a bucket. But I have a debut, a duet with
Jackman Ochs:Shalance A debuting duet.
Brian Hines:A debuting duet. A debutette, with Shalansei Royale who was accompanied by her legal representative, PJ Jones.
Jackman Ochs:That was a little bit of a different interview than what we've done in the feed. It was one of my favorite interviews that we've done.
Brian Hines:It was a it was a hybrid.
Jackman Ochs:They were great. They kept us on our toes. Really really fantastic to sit down and get to kind of know the people that we don't get to see on TV. Yes. 2 very different people behind this microphone, behind this table than they are on OVW, but really really enjoyed getting to sit down with them.
Jackman Ochs:That was like one of the That's the first I'm gonna go That's the first time I ever got called out for some of the dumb shit I've said on here. And
Brian Hines:Yeah. You were.
Jackman Ochs:I was, I was scared, but, you know, for me as a journalist, quote, unquote, or host or whatever it is I do over here, that was a really important moment to me. So you can find it on that feed, and I do wanna say sincerely, Sean, say thank you for coming in here guns a blazing because you made me better at what I do because because of you being a great guest. So thank you. Thank you.
TyniBrian:I predict that is not the last time you get called out
Brian Hines:for your
Jackman Ochs:Hell no. It's not.
TyniBrian:Alright. So where were we? About 1.
Brian Hines:About 1. We begin the night with, the 2nd week in a row we see Dustin Jackman.
Jackman Ochs:And Dustin Jackman.
Brian Hines:Justin. Dustin Jackman. He is a good looking guy.
Jackman Ochs:He is a good looking guy.
Brian Hines:It's easy to get you guys confused.
TyniBrian:That's that's that's Jackman after a day at the festival. Yeah. He's he's just dust he's dusting all over.
Brian Hines:Yeah. My apologies. Justin Dustin Jackson versus
Jackman Ochs:Dustin Dackman.
Brian Hines:Justin Dackman versus big beef. And, I gotta say big beef was fired up. Oh, yeah. He
TyniBrian:was sweaty. Yeah. He was wet. It's weird.
Jackman Ochs:I I I didn't mind it. I didn't mind it.
TyniBrian:It was it was definitely a a character choice. That's all I'm saying.
Brian Hines:Oh, sure. Yeah. You hang out in the mist tent for a little while and gorilla before you you come outside and, you know, you get off.
TyniBrian:Pretty sure he just dumped a water bottle on himself.
Brian Hines:I like to paint a different picture and makeup.
Jackman Ochs:He tried to do the triple h thing, but he didn't get the mist. It just kinda went all over.
Brian Hines:Somebody said something that he just kinda opened his mouth, and it all just rolled down his chin. Maybe something like that. I don't know.
Jackman Ochs:I said I said this last week. Really glad to see Dustin Jackson back before he left OVW or or when did whatever it was he would he's has been doing. I've seen him a couple of times on some indie stuff, around around Lexington or around the Lexington area. Really glad to see him slotted back in. He's he's very very very reliable.
Jackman Ochs:When he was there before, he was super beloved. So glad to see him get get slotted back in. He's a great guy to go against big beef here as we're starting to look it looks like maybe not a feud to dissolve the destroyers but let's get these guys over as 2 singles guys that they don't have to dislike each other. We can put the destroyers back together at any point but like I'm here for big beef singles run I'm I'm liking what they're doing with big Zo right now I think Dustin Jackson was a great guy to bring out what Big Beef does well, and Big Beef takes some of the victory here. Mhmm.
Jackman Ochs:About to Carson Drake with Ari Alexander versus King Beauhoney. Yes. This was the the big surprise for me, at this episode.
TyniBrian:Advertised this as an as a surprise.
Brian Hines:I didn't see it.
TyniBrian:Yeah. That it was on social. They they they had some they they had advertised a brand new person coming to OVW. Oh. King
Brian Hines:Beaumont is the
TyniBrian:man made his OVW debut this week.
Brian Hines:I I was very pleasantly surprised to hear that they announce king Beaumont and then see him come through the entrance of OVW.
TyniBrian:Did you make baloney sandwiches for him in Southern Ohio at some point? No. I feel I I don't know. It feels like you just get to know these people a whole lot and and, you know, you
Brian Hines:I I saw him at a couple of the Spot Monkey shows, but he was at the one show I went to in Norwood with my son about a year ago. I I believe it was Ascend Pro Wrestling, and that was a Tim Lutz promotion. And a lot of those people, hit the Spot Monkey shows as well. So I had I'd, run into him a couple times. I'd seen him wrestle.
Brian Hines:I'd talked to him. Super cool guy, very intimidating, very strong competitor. And the first time I saw him, I thought, wow. That guy is huge, and he hits, like, so hard. And, you know, I was I wasn't sure if, like, you know, he was still kinda worked up after the match or whatever, and I was kind of afraid to talk to him because, you know, he's a pretty big dude.
Brian Hines:And, next time I I saw him, I I caught up with him and, actually got a chance to speak because he wasn't, like, selling merch and stuff like that. But, yeah, super cool guy. I was thrilled to see him at OVW. It made me, think about some happier times at home. Not that they're not happy now.
Brian Hines:Just, you know it's it's always nice to see somebody that you've known from somewhere else make a a debut on OVW, who, his match was against Carson Drake, and I saw him the same way. I, told you that he was gonna end up at OVW sooner or later, but, I completely forgot about, King Beaumont. So welcome to the OVW, King.
Jackman Ochs:Well, it starts off here. Carson Drake obviously realizes how intimidating King Beaumonty is. He offers him money at the very beginning of the match. He puts the newly minted Guattari in between him and King Beaumonty as he's running around the ring. See, this is exactly what I was afraid of whenever the Carson Drake
Brian Hines:When you initially made that statement, I thought, what are you talking about? That's exactly
Jackman Ochs:what I was afraid.
Brian Hines:Now I I understand.
Jackman Ochs:Qatari? What was wrong with the like, what was wrong with Ari Alexander? Nothing. Nothing.
TyniBrian:Are we actually going to keep calling her guitar?
Jackman Ochs:She the the Chiron said guitar. So I would say that that is here to stay. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no.
Jackman Ochs:Carson Carson song.
Brian Hines:Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:So we see King Bo Mani debuting here. It sounds like maybe these guys have run into each other a few times over, the course of their wrestling careers.
Brian Hines:Oh, yeah. They they've wrestled the wrestled each other up and down the eastern seaboard.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. What what do you this is a philosophical question, Brian.
Brian Hines:Okay.
Jackman Ochs:When you have a new debut in wrestling promotion
Brian Hines:Mhmm.
Jackman Ochs:You this is someone that you've seen for the first time inside of an individual promotion. Do you prefer them to take the loss on the way in or do you wanna see them come out with a resounding victory on the way in?
Brian Hines:I mean, it it's always good when you can, you know, get the win Mhmm. Right off the bat.
Jackman Ochs:I kinda I tend to agree.
Brian Hines:But at the same time, you gotta pay your dues. Sure. Sure. So, I mean, I I'm fine either way as a fan. I don't try to think too much about it.
Brian Hines:Hey. It's a new person. Let's see how they do. And, you know, some some days you're the the tree and some days you're the dog.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. Well, and I this is just a philosophical question because it can go either way. It really can I know maybe what I would do but I don't know what the right answer is because it's just an opinion question I just wanted to know your opinion on my opinion was kind of the same thing as yours if you have a debut they should win at least the first match but that's okay Carson Drake's a slimy little heel? It's not like King Bo Mani was not in control of the match.
Brian Hines:He was, but Carson Drake pulled the old, Bobby Hill and hit him below the belt, gave him a a touch of the old, that's my purse. I don't know you. 123, we're done. Carson Drake walks out with the Excellent.
Jackman Ochs:The victory there. OVW Rush division champion, Hoda Pesos versus Ragnar the ruthless in this next fight. It's a non title bout here.
TyniBrian:Before we get too deep into this, can we talk about why this is a non title bout versus a title bout?
Jackman Ochs:Because this is what OVW does. I don't I really don't know. I I I rack my brain going back and forth on why there's so many non title bouts scheduled in ovw week in and week out. I don't know if it protects the the belt, I don't know if it protects the belt holder, I don't know if it makes you realize like oh belts are only going to change hands on like the pay per view show but we also know that that's not true, and just watching week in and week out we know that they they change hands we've seen them change hands at house shows before so I don't I don't know I I don't know, I don't know if you're not gonna every once in a while have the the non belt holder lose or win one of these non title belt matches Mhmm. Then I don't know why we're not just scheduling title belt matches every week.
TyniBrian:Yeah. Because spoiler, Huncha's gonna win this match.
Brian Hines:Yeah.
TyniBrian:Who wins this match? So why not just make it a a title defense to to kind of give him some of that fighting champion clout?
Jackman Ochs:That's my exact question.
Brian Hines:Well, as far as I'm concerned, this is kinda my take on it. I feel like this was a non title bout because it was more of a foil to drive more of a foil to drive, push Will Austin. At the end of this match, after Jota Pesos wins over a hard fought, battle with, Ragnar the ruthless. Will Austin comes out and starts speaking some truth.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. No. This is something so this is actually this is gonna be my first t shirt from the ovw podcast. It's not gonna be for sale because it's gonna be a one of 1. It's just gonna say push Will Austin.
Jackman Ochs:We've got 2 new things that we're saying here on the podcast or at least I'm saying here on the podcast all the time. Number 1, push Will Austin. Number 2, Cal Hero is no longer a baby face. These are the new these are my new opinions. But seriously, why is Will Austin he's he's the total package.
Jackman Ochs:I am hoping
TyniBrian:No. That's somebody else.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. Who's it? Who calls us a total?
Brian Hines:It's X Lay Ooger Lay.
Jackman Ochs:He doesn't wrestle here.
Brian Hines:I guess.
Jackman Ochs:Will Austin's the complete package. Is that another you're gonna call me out on that one? Will Austin's a great fucking wrestler. Push Will Austin.
Brian Hines:Okay? Your shirt idea is push Will Austin. My shirt idea is one word in quotes, hush, and then at the bottom, Tony Evans.
TyniBrian:But Will did a great job with this promo.
Jackman Ochs:He did. No. This is this is what I've been waiting on,
TyniBrian:sir. Excellent.
Brian Hines:Glad to see him get some mic time. Got some mic skills. The great. Great show.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. No. Seriously. Very, very, very much looking forward to what I hope to be a long and complicated storyline full of great matches between Hoda Pesos and Will Austin and maybe, just maybe, Will Austin getting his rightful long established title shot in OVW finally.
Brian Hines:Which is what he came out to to do. He came out to challenge for a, a title match, and the response from Jodepesos is priceless.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. This is pretty badass.
Brian Hines:33 simple words. No hablo ingles. Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:That's pretty badass. I can't lie. I enjoyed that. Sitting here talking about how they need to push Will Austin, but, that Manny kinda won the night. Manny kinda won the interaction, unfortunately.
Brian Hines:Champ. Yeah.
TyniBrian:But I I can tell you, I saw Will after the after the event. I'm sure both of you did too, and he was feeling that energy Big. An hour and a half after this Yeah. After the show.
Jackman Ochs:Well, good for you, man. I've got to caught catch up with Will after an event. Very different energy coming from Will. So, hopefully, we were able to continue to carry that into the weekly shows.
Brian Hines:Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. You can definitely, see the difference.
Jackman Ochs:The bad girls club in this next sketch basically determined they they say what we've known their philosophy on wrestling to be since their inception if we don't get caught doing anything bad then no one will know that we're doing anything bad right that's basically what we're getting at here. Yep. We come back with another sketch. Certified Luke Curtis appears and recaps his career from his rush division chap his rush division championships, his tag runs, his near win for the NWA heavyweight championship against EC 3, and now it looks like he's calling out Jack Von.
Brian Hines:The veteran.
Jackman Ochs:The veteran Jack Von. The OVW heavyweight champion, Jack Von. Yeah.
TyniBrian:Except Tony Gunn wants to call him out too.
Jackman Ochs:Well, of course. Of course. Tony Gunn still feels like he's very much, in The best there is? Well, just ask his song. Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:He still feels like he's very much in this, title shot, this title conversation. I'm not gonna tell him he's wrong because I don't necessarily think he's wrong but I think that I would like to see what Luke and Jack can do and I want I want a little bit more time after that Tony Gunn and Jack Vaughn match from a few weeks ago to just let that match simmer just a little bit more because it was really, really, really tremendously good.
Brian Hines:Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:And, also, I kinda gotta ask, where did, Real wouldn't go? What happened to him?
TyniBrian:He may got maybe got a better offer somewhere else.
Brian Hines:Sure. Or something.
TyniBrian:Who knows? Who cares?
Jackman Ochs:There's a lot
Brian Hines:of He's probably at the, Supreme Outlet store.
TyniBrian:You you guys know how I feel about real. I'm not a fan of that dude.
Jackman Ochs:I don't know, man.
Brian Hines:You hate her?
TyniBrian:I don't hate her. He's fine. I don't I don't hate anybody, but it it's fine. He his weird little dance and he his mismatch, his Ronald McDonald get up.
Brian Hines:I've seen you out there trying to do that dance, man.
TyniBrian:I it was a little chilly before the show on Thursday, and
Brian Hines:I was trying
TyniBrian:what's funny is my attempt to do it was actually recognized for what it was. That's always funny.
Brian Hines:Sure. So
Jackman Ochs:I never really got real one in WWE, but I was super into everything he did in OVW. So, like, I I'm I'm kind of
TyniBrian:I am genuine. Minute promo when he was the, when he was the special referee.
Jackman Ochs:I didn't need that. Yeah. Yeah. That actually was a little that actually was a little unnecessary, but pretty much everything else, I was pretty on board for, ironically enough considering I did not ever like for him when he was on the main roster but get a little bit more of a kind of separation of Luke Curtis here from his time in the overman or his time as a heel he when Tony Gunn comes out and apologizes to the OVW faithful for missing his match last week because of the, you know, of of stuff, going on in his personal life. Philippe Day, baby.
Jackman Ochs:He announces that his daughter was born on leap day, and Luke Curtis very very very earnestly claps is very very earnest in his celebration for Tony Gunn just kind of another week of separation away from the Luke Curtis that we've seen into the Luke Curtis that we hopefully will be continuing to see over the coming weeks months I'm really thinking let's get Tony got let's Tony, go enjoy time with your new kid for a few weeks. That's not because I don't want to see you. It's because you deserve it. Let this Curtis, Jack Von thing play out a little bit. Let's let that really kind of get its roots into the ground and then maybe we can bring Tony Gunn back.
TyniBrian:Yeah. When Jack came out and said that was a well was it Jack or EC3? Because they all end up coming out there. Hilarious. Which was actually a pretty
Jackman Ochs:I bought DC 3 out.
Brian Hines:What did you put your time on the bus screen?
TyniBrian:It it wasn't really in EC 3's Monday night Thursday night Raw.
Jackman Ochs:Not this time. Not this time.
TyniBrian:Pretty funny pretty funny set sketch here altogether, but I kinda wanna see Tony Gunn and and Luke Curtis go at it next week and for the for that number one contender. I agree. I want Luke to win, but I'm ready to see that fight.
Brian Hines:I agree with you, Jackman. He he needs to go spend time with the youngin' because Mhmm. Speaking as a dad, you never get that time back.
Jackman Ochs:Well and also this might be something time for something that I would really like to see in OVW and I think having Luke Curtis and Tony Gunn pull this stipulation or pull this ending out, here considering that they are 2 really beloved guys at this point in their story let's go for a time limit draw and just get like new blood in here to face Jack Von like let's let's do something weird let's do something weird here let's do something or more likely than not real one comes out screws over Tony Gunn Luke Curtis wins he gets the number one to contendership and then we put Tony Gunn real one back into their feud. Yeah. If I had to guess.
TyniBrian:Yeah. I guess probably real one was hanging out with the masked men this during this week. They were all off somewhere making bad fashion choices.
Brian Hines:Yeah. That's that's probably it.
Jackman Ochs:Let's talk about our one main event here,
Brian Hines:Brian Hans. One hour main event was a 6 man tag that starts off with superior Tony Evans coming to the ring accompanied by the always formidable Jade Niro.
Jackman Ochs:Daddy Jade Niro.
Brian Hines:Yeah. Yeah. And, announcing that, that hit, you know, that title that, Cal Hero has, that, media title should be his, you know.
TyniBrian:Yeah. Hard to imagine.
Brian Hines:No. Exactly. This is the
Jackman Ochs:Man What Tony Evans does. Yeah.
Brian Hines:And, he he announces, his friends who are tagging with him, that would be Beaches and Cream, Luscious Lawrence, Omar Amir, And they go up against, Tusks and Chains, which is t w three and the mammoth, Donoff, and Cecil. And, they are accompanied by the fanny pack kid, cow hero, OVW media champion, country boy media champion.
Jackman Ochs:There's a lot of moving parts in this match.
Brian Hines:Yeah. That that was a lot of words too. Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:This is the hour. Words are hard. This is the main event of hour 1 here. Kind of like perfect, you know, mid mid show main event here, to pair up Cal Hero and with Tustin chains and then Beaches and Cream with Tony Evans. These people are ending each other's hair or lack thereof hair if you're Donovan Cecil week in and week out.
Jackman Ochs:So this, this 3 person team, this trios team makes a lot of sense, but touching on what I said earlier, I really do think that it is maybe time for the Cal hero heel turn and I think that we are getting closer and closer there with the end of this match.
Brian Hines:Yeah. Like, we talked about it last week or at least you did in reference to the previous week where he was, disqualified because the ref found the loaded baked potato glove under tucked underneath his fanny pack that, Jaden Nero planted there while he was passed out pinning, who was it? It was Star Rider, wasn't it?
Jackman Ochs:I believe so.
Brian Hines:Yeah. And then, throughout the course of this match so good. But let's let's not get to that just yet. Let's talk about what actually happened
Jackman Ochs:to match. You tell me what to do.
Brian Hines:You tell me what to do. I mean, t w 3 and, Donald and Cecil look fantastic.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. I mean Always.
Brian Hines:It really fascinates me, that the the the pair dynamic between the 2, and here's why. It's like, at times, Donovan Cecil is used as a vehicle, and and carries him, like, he's carrying somebody across the threshold and he, you know, goes through and kicks everybody in the ring, Donovan Cecil has launched him out of the ring almost into the 2nd row at opponents, taking out the whole entire, trio of, Evans, Lawrence, and Amir.
Jackman Ochs:Just wow. From for me
Brian Hines:And their their gear looks pretty dope too.
Jackman Ochs:The thing that I like the most about this recent run with Beaches and Cream is just how very different wrestlers they are in this version of beaches and cream than before they got put together and before they kind of became bad guys. Like, they look I just really really really appreciate the attention to detail and how they've changed their offense how they changed their selling and what they do now that they are quote unquote slimy bad guys as opposed to being 2 of the more beloved baby faces as they were prior to this most recent, beaches and cream run here, so it looks like kind of towards the ending of this match we're going back into singles action with Tony Evans and Cal Hero.
Brian Hines:Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. That was the impression that I got.
Jackman Ochs:I don't I'm not gonna say that that's a
Brian Hines:bad thing. Oh, absolutely not. I mean, that would be a great feud between the 2. I mean, Tony Evans always great on the mic, you know, great week after week in the ring. Cal hero is just about as over as you can get whether you consider him a baby face or a heel.
Brian Hines:Mhmm. And he's he's got the gold. So, that would, you know, be a setup for a a great feud between the 2 with you know, could be, like, some some marathon matches or, you know, who knows what all the there's limited limitless potential.
Jackman Ochs:If they are turning Cal hero into a heel, and that's it kind of seems like it's hard to deny that if they're turning cal hero into a heel and they're turning turning him into a babyface. The only thing that I wish, was still associated with this angle is Mick Foley. I wanna make I kinda wanna make Foley
Brian Hines:to give
Jackman Ochs:him the a still. Like, I've been I think that I think We'll
TyniBrian:come back.
Jackman Ochs:I think that we can. I think we can still get there. I think we could still get there, but I would I think the cherry on top of this, if that's the direction they're going is Mick Foley coming back. Cal gets the d. Pause.
Jackman Ochs:And
Brian Hines:and,
Jackman Ochs:and d minus. D minus. Yeah.
TyniBrian:This is that that's a different show.
Jackman Ochs:Cal gets Cal gets a d minus, and Tony Evans gets the a. That would be that would be the cherry on top to this whole thing for me.
Brian Hines:Well, you know, the beauty of a weekend like this one, the Lexington City Comic Con is Mick Foley will be there and we can ask him ourselves and who knows? Maybe, maybe he'll talk to us. Maybe he'll he'll hang out for a little bit. I don't know. We'll see.
Jackman Ochs:Before we get into
Brian Hines:totally out of the realm of impossibility.
Jackman Ochs:Before we get into hour 2 here,
TyniBrian:well, now we need to actually talk about the finish with with Cal laying down and popping
Brian Hines:So long story long story finished
Jackman Ochs:and then it grew.
Brian Hines:Yeah. He, he saw that Daniel Spencer was kind of paying attention to him a little bit. But, he pulls the old Eddie Guerrero and, drops the the glove on him and falls down and acts like he's been passed out. And when, Spencer comes and disqualifies Tony Evans, thus giving the win to cow hero and, tusks and chains. Every time he he turns and is talking and looking at superior Tony Evans, he gets up and and mocks him and laughs at him.
Brian Hines:And then every time that Daniel Spencer turns around, he is passed out yet again. So that was a a hilarious and wonderful end to that match and, good job to, Cal Hero to reference the, great one out of your railroad.
Jackman Ochs:He's just getting aggressive and bratty is what's happening. That's what's I mean, cow hero is getting aggressive and bratty. Hey. Listen to the first few weeks of this podcast if you just wanna hear 2 people agree with each other all
Brian Hines:the time. Same. Yeah.
TyniBrian:I agree with that.
Jackman Ochs:Same attitude. I agree. The, I did wanna touch on because we saw this the Sofia Rose Yes. Thing. I guess, basically, giving a little bit about her life story, her medical history.
Jackman Ochs:They must have shown this thing, like, 4 times. Right?
TyniBrian:It it apparently is just in the stack of commercials from
Jackman Ochs:right now. And that's not like
Brian Hines:That's serious business.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. Seriously. And, like, I I can I could be so flippant and, like, semi disrespectful on the show? This is not me trying to be that at all, but it is clear. We need to be paying attention to Sofia Rose.
Jackman Ochs:Yes. Like, we are supposed to really she's impossible not to like. Like, she's great, and now we know more about her personal life and, you know, her her medical history. And it wasn't like like she wasn't automatically likable, automatically very charismatic whenever she came through the curtain. Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:She was. To watch on television. But whenever you couple her kind of natural charisma with this very personal backstory, it is clear as a fan. We need to be paying attention to Sofia Rose.
Brian Hines:We we most certainly do. It would be great to see it's America's sweethearts?
Jackman Ochs:Right. That's what was kind of my next question.
Brian Hines:Okay.
Jackman Ochs:Lady Bird wasn't there this week.
Brian Hines:That's true.
Jackman Ochs:So the Sofia Rose, promo was featured very, very, very prominently.
Brian Hines:Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:As we'll get on to later, she doesn't she's featured in a match, but not with lady bird. Seems like they were gaining a I just I guess I'm just curious. I guess I'm just curious.
Brian Hines:I don't know. They they they had a good run about 3 weeks in a row, 3 or 4, where they came out with the win every time. I mean, they came to the ring looking great. They worked hard, and worked well together as a team.
TyniBrian:And they premiered that Sofia Rose commercial, the knot the last knot Mick Foley was there.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. It had been going on for
TyniBrian:top tickets.
Jackman Ochs:It had been going on for a while, but for some reason, it just seemed very, very prominent on this show. Yeah.
TyniBrian:It certainly did. Yes. I agree.
Jackman Ochs:I just I guess I I just I feel like the the America's sweethearts had had a lot of good things going for him. And I just I hope that this isn't maybe this is just a a week off as opposed to a new direction.
TyniBrian:Yeah. Let's let's wait and see what happens.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. That's I'm just start. I'm saying prayers over them. I'm just curious. I'm just curious what you guys think.
Jackman Ochs:That's all. That's all. So, let let's I'm gonna let you talk about this one. I think I think I think we know my opinion on it.
Brian Hines:Are you talking about the, Guittari and Carson Drake?
Jackman Ochs:I'm talking about the artist formerly known as Larry Alexander in Carson Drake's little segment they had here. Yes. I am.
Brian Hines:Yeah. Actually, I was in in line of the concession stand. I was I was getting a slice of wicks. I was so I I didn't actually get to see this whole thing, but I heard it go down and I saw the aftermath and was like
Jackman Ochs:I was floating about 6 6 feet above my head dissociating so that I didn't lose my mind when Schlonset Royale who I love and I've talked about how much I like on this podcast and I've talked about how much I like Ari Alexander on this podcast and I've talked about how I want something different for them and they got something different they got something different for sure now they're both kind of saddled with Carson Drake
Brian Hines:And that's unfortunate.
Jackman Ochs:It is. It really is. I remember remember how much hope I had whenever they had those few matches in the dark show, and it looked like they were gonna have a feud in the dark show? And I said, finally. Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:Finally. And fast forward a few weeks later, I am so glad they are both on TV. Yeah. Absolutely. I am so glad they're both getting an opportunity to be inside of the wrestling industry.
Jackman Ochs:I'm so glad they're part of OVW. This is not what I would have ever wanted for them, not what I want for them now, not what would have done with them. That's all. That's all I can say. That's all I could say.
Jackman Ochs:And this Ryan Von Rocket and Carson Drake stuff isn't going anywhere. It's it's it's just not.
Brian Hines:No. I I understand the idea behind it and the the sentiment behind it, but, no, man. You're you're no Andy Kaufman. You're no honky tonk man. You're no $1,000,000 man.
Brian Hines:You're Carson Drake, and this ain't working.
Jackman Ochs:Well, and it's gonna end up being Crystal and Katie versus Shallon say and Ari. Yeah. And Shallon say and Ari
TyniBrian:Are going to kill them.
Jackman Ochs:No. They're gonna they're gonna be cleaning up a mess that whole night. That whole match is what's gonna end up happening, unfortunately. That's why you pair them together because they're really good at wrestling and they're gonna be able to to Carrie, Crystal, and Katie? Yes.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. But I just I just wouldn't have done it this way. I and, like, I hate it. I really do. Like, I really, really, really, really like Ari Alexander and really, really like schlontzy royale and the carson drake stuff versus ryan von rocket stuff it annoys me but ultimately it's fine what sours me the most on it is the presence of Shlonsie Royall and R.
Jackman Ochs:Alexander. That's just me, that's just me. I don't write the show I just come on the internet and complain about it.
Brian Hines:I just come on
Jackman Ochs:the internet and complain about it.
Brian Hines:I'm just happy to be here.
Jackman Ochs:I'm just most of the time happy to be here. 8 woman tag up next with the bad girls club versus Riley Matthews, Sophia Rose, TT, and Freya the slayer.
Brian Hines:Wait. Wait. Wait. We didn't finish what happened in the Carson Drake part.
Jackman Ochs:I'm finished with it.
Brian Hines:We yeah. Okay. That's fair. So Carson Drake is out there with Ari Alexander and Shalance Royal. And, of course, in response to that, Ryan Von Rocket with the Rockettes comes out.
TyniBrian:And, of course, they've got they've stolen Jeff Jarrett's gig.
Brian Hines:They yeah. They they've got the, baby powder guitar. Ryan Von Rocket takes it and is going to try to get revenge on Carson Drake for hitting him the previous week, and he accidentally hits Crystal instead. And, that results in a, at the time, what looked to be a super kinda serious situation. I hope everything worked out alright.
Brian Hines:I hope everything is okay, and that wasn't, like, some kind of disastrous thing.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. And, I mean, I don't I can't take your guitar shot to the head. So I No. I can't. I That was the part I didn't
Brian Hines:see, but I heard it. And then I heard the gasp from the crowd. And then I saw Ryan Von Rocket throw the the x up, which means that, you know It's usually a pretty bad thing. Yeah. So I'm hoping that Crystal is okay.
Brian Hines:And And
Jackman Ochs:it's also not like OVW. There are places that are not kind of classless enough to throw the x as a work. OVW is not that kind of place. So when you do see the x at OVW, it is scary.
Brian Hines:Yeah. So anyway, back to this, the bad girls Hey.
Jackman Ochs:Well, context. Please. Please. Please.
Brian Hines:So that was the bad girls club, which is dream girl Ellie, La Princesa, Tiffany Nieves, Leah the Grey, and, Hema. Hema. Yeah. That's right. That was the 4th one.
Brian Hines:And, they are facing Sophia Rose, Freya, the sleigh, island girl, TT, and, Riley Matthews.
Jackman Ochs:Riley Matthews. Yes.
Brian Hines:Yes. And, I mean, if you were ever looking for, like, a comic book style, like, all out looking brawl, that's how this looked aesthetically because you've got 8, like, super powerful women in there and there's, like, lots of color and, like, the costumes are all really great. I mean, everybody looks like a a comic book hero.
Jackman Ochs:Mhmm. Well, and you I've you really gotta give credit to dream girl Ellie and Hema for kind of seamlessly joining the bad girls club. It seemed like when Jada was there that that was such a tight three person unit. Yeah. We haven't seen Jada on TV for one reason or another over the last few months.
Brian Hines:She's been, training in, like, New Japan Pro Wrestling.
Jackman Ochs:Good for her.
Brian Hines:Yeah. She's I I see her on social media. She's out there doing the things.
Jackman Ochs:Maybe I need to get on the social
Brian Hines:media. No. No. No. You could just ask me not to.
Jackman Ochs:Nah. Nah. But it's kind of a group that was very it was cemented, very kind of like the, the mission statement of the group was very clear. Then you had dream girl, Ellie, and things kind of get like, she ends up becoming a great member of it. And then you add Hema who would had only been in the promotion for a handful of weeks before they No.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. Like, 3 or 4, maybe. Yeah. And then so she's become, you know, a great part of it as well. Just really, really happy that the Bad Girls Club, even though it's gone through changes, is still there and still kind of like a dominant force inside of the women's division here at OVW.
Jackman Ochs:I just wish that there was something and I kind of thought that Sofia Rose and Lady Bird were this. I wish that there was something on the other end that was as unified.
Brian Hines:What do you mean? Like teams?
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. Like a team like Or
Brian Hines:a faction.
Jackman Ochs:A faction. Just A
Brian Hines:fraction. A fraction of a fraction.
Jackman Ochs:Just something that was so clearly as unified on the baby face side as the bad girls club is on the heelside. Oh,
Brian Hines:okay. I got it.
TyniBrian:Does that make sense? The good ladies union.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. The good ladies union. Yeah. The the daughters of the American revolution not the daughters of the Confederacy if you will. Yes.
Brian Hines:Good good ladies union that would be glue glu and I don't know whether that would work, But one of the things I noticed during the, the sketch earlier with the bad girls club Mhmm. Is the way they talked about we're the best. Because you had Leila saying that we're the best, And then you had Tiffany saying that we're the best. And the way they it wasn't what they said so much how they said it. I kinda felt like there was the beginning of, a rift between well, and there, of course, there was because of the misunderstanding from the celebration, the bad girl celebration a couple weeks ago when, Leila won the the title, but, Tiffany's, suspension was lifted.
Brian Hines:So they've already kinda planted the seed of that, and I think that the sketch that we saw earlier tonight kinda further accentuates that subtly. So maybe not at, the March pay per view that is non sportsball related that I will not try to remember the name of off
Jackman Ochs:the top of my head. March Mayhem?
Brian Hines:What what he said. And, maybe not then, but I feel like maybe the pay per view after that would be where you have, like, a a big event between the those 2, and maybe they have a falling out at this pay per view. I don't know. But that that's kinda how I see things going. Maybe Who
Jackman Ochs:goes with who?
Brian Hines:That is a good question. So are
TyniBrian:you saying we get, like, a Wolfpack girls bad girls club and a Hollywood bad girls club?
Brian Hines:Yeah. Maybe. Like, bad girls red and then bad girls white if we're gonna go in terms of, NWO factions. But yeah, I kinda feel like that's how it's gonna go, and, obviously, it's gonna be Tiffany versus Layla, but, I couldn't tell you who I think would go with who.
Jackman Ochs:I'm gonna guess, the bad girls club stays with Layla Tiffany comes baby face. That'd be nice.
Brian Hines:You know what? That yeah. That that makes a lot more sense.
Jackman Ochs:That's what I
Brian Hines:would do. I mean, if that's the case, you know, is the interview interview gonna be as fun?
Jackman Ochs:It'll be very different. Yeah. That's But it'll be it'll be equally as high quality.
Brian Hines:Well, if if, a face turn for, La Princesa is in the the cards, then I think that we need to get one last good interview before that happens.
Jackman Ochs:Oh, I don't know. I think we got it. I think we got his good news. I don't know.
Brian Hines:I I just had a really good time.
Jackman Ochs:She she was she was fantastic. She was fantastic that day.
Brian Hines:Absolutely.
Jackman Ochs:I know that Welcome back anytime. Tiny Brian, I know that you are a big fan of the surfboard spot. How'd you like the the stereo surfboard spot here?
TyniBrian:I I I I'm not only am I a fan of the surfboard spot that Tee Tee does, I'm also a really big fan of when 2 wrestlers do the same move at the or 3 do the same move at the same time.
Brian Hines:Yeah. What did they actually say was the name of the finisher?
TyniBrian:I don't know that they've named it anything.
Brian Hines:Because I kinda felt like they talked at some they called it something.
TyniBrian:The Surf's Up, maybe?
Brian Hines:I don't know. I could go back and I
TyniBrian:missed it. I haven't heard it.
Jackman Ochs:This is
Brian Hines:Let me see whether I can turn up the, We
Jackman Ochs:we can we can fix that
Brian Hines:in the post. Yeah. We can fix that
Jackman Ochs:in the post.
TyniBrian:Or next week, you know.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. The team of Riley, Matthews, Sofia Rhodes, TT and Freya, the slayer take home the victory here. I was a little surprised. I kind of thought Bad Girls Club were gonna win.
Brian Hines:Yeah. I mean, you you would kinda think so, but, no. They didn't. And it it was good to see that Freya and the OVW locker room, the, the good gals in the OVW locker room get their revenge because they they've been on the the losing end for a while. I mean, most recently, Freya losing the title at, That's true.
Brian Hines:At, Tough Love in, just a couple weeks ago on, February 10th, I think it was. And, so, yeah, it was good to see them get some comeuppance and come out with the win tonight. Sophia Sofia Rose looked great. Matthews looked great. TT and and Freya looked great as always.
Brian Hines:So it was really good to see them all get the win.
Jackman Ochs:And I also think, man, with in this match, you have your kind of established you have your handful of very established stars here and you have, like, the 3 people to look out for the most in the women's division, Sofia Rose, Hima, and Riley Matthews.
TyniBrian:I do have one question. Si. So I usually have a fairly clear idea watching matches as we're building towards a pay per view what they're building to. I have no idea what women's matches we're building to here. Anybody have any thoughts?
Brian Hines:In in the like, are you talking about this 8 person match?
TyniBrian:Well, just in general right now in this build up to March mayhem, I have no idea where we're going. We're we're we're having some fun matches every week. There's there's some fun character interactions, but I don't know kind of I don't know the plot.
Jackman Ochs:Sometimes if Hollywood's not involved, it can be a little hard to guess what the women's matches are gonna be at OVW pay per views. Sometimes they're a little more predictable when certain people are involved in the card but sometimes whenever certain people aren't involved they're not as easy to figure out and I think that that's the I think that that's where we're at right now is, man, we could end up just as realistically seeing the same match we just saw on TV at the pay per view in a couple weeks? Because I don't know if there's a clear direction right now.
Brian Hines:Well, I I feel like there are 2 there could be 2 fairly clear directions. I mean, given what, a lot of people look forward to in March in in terms of the sports balls, I could see some sort of wrestling tournament, like King of the Ring style, maybe, since it's women's history month, it could be Queen of the Ring or, something like that. I don't know. Where you've got 8 or 10 of these strong competitors, whoever wins their match moves on and faces the winner of their round until they crown a clear winner. Or, more hopefully, in terms of our podcast, once, it could be the beginning of a, fairly strong looking women's tag team division.
Jackman Ochs:I don't know if we're there yet. I would like for us to be there, but I'd just like
Brian Hines:I If we're not there, it's still too far off.
Jackman Ochs:I just don't know if we're there yet. I think what what will probably happen is it's like Freya versus Leila in the main card and then, like, Sofia Rose versus Hema on the pre
Brian Hines:show. Oh, it could very well be.
Jackman Ochs:Is kind of, that is take from take from that what you will. Take from that what you will. Let's get to the main event here, the whole kit and caboodle.
Brian Hines:That has, it's the OVW tag championship is on the line, and it is the golden lions challenging the overmen for a rematch after losing the tag titles not long ago. The over men, of course, are accompanied by
Jackman Ochs:Shannon the dude. Shannon the dude.
Brian Hines:And,
TyniBrian:oh. Sorry. I hear Shannon the dude in an OVW contact not have to boo.
Brian Hines:Yeah. I I I had fun with this match because I actually had a Sharpie on me, and, while we this match was on, I I drew a little face on my thumb, and I played, Adam Revolver watching the match with Adam Revolver. And when he was outside the ring, he walked right by me, and I stuck my thumb right up. So he it was like looking in a mirror, man.
Jackman Ochs:He might have just thought you were doing a good job.
Brian Hines:It could be. But my my thumb looked angry that night, and I think I have pictures, and maybe I'll post them on Facebook. But,
TyniBrian:There really is nothing you like better than creating an effigy of Adam Rival
Brian Hines:Oh, I love it. I I love it. I think it's hilarious, but I've got way too much time and a a Sharpie on my hands.
Jackman Ochs:There's a little bit of a stipulation heading into this match. Right? If the Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's right.
Jackman Ochs:If the Golden Lions lost against the Overman here tonight, they could no longer challenge for the tag team belts as long as the Overman held the belts.
Brian Hines:Yes. That is correct.
Jackman Ochs:Like, this is an important thing on the outset here to acknowledge.
Brian Hines:Foreshadowing.
Jackman Ochs:Considering right. The ending of the match.
Brian Hines:Yes. It was it was a good match. Lots of, you know, lots of back and forth strong showing from, the Golden Lions, equally strong showing from the, the human thumb and skinny jaw.
Jackman Ochs:Overman made them Overman made the Golden Lions look great. Yeah. No, like, no doubt about it.
Brian Hines:Yeah. They they both both teams looked great. It was a great match. Shannon, not so much.
Jackman Ochs:You don't think his jacket looks
Brian Hines:good? Okay. That one in particular, yeah. But, I don't know.
Jackman Ochs:What what do you think here? Because okay. So beaches and cream interfere. This leads to the overman retaining. This means that the Golden Lions can never challenge the Overman ever again for the tag team championships what's next here at the end of this match for the Golden Lions, do you think?
Brian Hines:They'll wrestle somebody else for a week, and Beaches and Cream will win the titles from the Overman. And then there will be a, a 3 three way tag battle for, the tag champs.
Jackman Ochs:Again. Okay. So the Overman versus Beaches and Cream versus the Golden Lions.
Brian Hines:Yeah.
Jackman Ochs:This version of the Overman.
Brian Hines:Yeah. Would not would not be surprised if that was the the tag match situation at, the pay per view.
Jackman Ochs:Kinda like it. I kinda like it because you have
TyniBrian:Behind the desk here, we're we're in
Jackman Ochs:favor. Yeah. Kinda you have you have the Golden Lions kind of that eliminates one of my biggest problems with them is that they they would be legitimately fighting from underneath here. I've never really thought of them as a team that's ever fought from underneath. But against a triple threat match against 2 other teams that they hate and that hate them, yeah, I kinda think you're onto something, Brian.
Brian Hines:That that's what I think ought to happen.
TyniBrian:I think
Jackman Ochs:I kinda like it.
Brian Hines:Yeah. Think this Thursday, they ought to come out and I mean, they'll go ahead and reshow this angle. It'll either be in the the Wick's Pizza spot or the, like, the toughest thing of the night from Gorilla Box
Jackman Ochs:or whatever. Yeah.
Brian Hines:One of those, and then Golden Lions are gonna come to the ring and, you know, either do the the face thing and say, that's it. We can't challenge for the tag titles anymore. And then or, like, they have a match with beaches and cream because beaches and cream comes out, and they're like, You know, we got you guys, disqualified or whatever by spearing the overmen, thus getting the golden lions disqualified in case we hadn't already said that in, the midst of our, excited ramblings, but, that's what I think the next logical step in this story would be.
Jackman Ochs:I kind of I like I like where your head's at a lot there. Cool. I would not I would not mind seeing that. I think based on what I've been told about OVW, I think the next step as a viewer of what I've been told about OVW, I think the next step is a street fight or, yeah, some sort of big stipulation blow off between the Golden Lions and Beaches and Cream.
Brian Hines:I'm hoping it's not the chained chaos.
Jackman Ochs:I'd I'd little too soon. Little too soon. I'm hoping let's get let's let's bring out trash cans full of of kendo sticks and stuff.
Brian Hines:Or bees. Trash cans full of bees. How do you
Jackman Ochs:get bees in a trash can?
Brian Hines:I'm not an API.
Jackman Ochs:I'm gonna leave that up to you.
Brian Hines:I'm behinds, but I'm not a beekeeper.
Jackman Ochs:But, you know, let's get I don't know. A dog collar, like, there's that great double dog collar from last year. Yeah. You know, could be a great stipulation to bring into this, great a double dog collar in ring of honor last year, I guess, I should clarify. But there's a lot of stipulations that could be added on to this.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. And I think a big like 4 person just like brawl would be a lot of fun.
Brian Hines:Or an early stage person.
Jackman Ochs:Yeah. Yeah. I think I think if you're if I think if it's a title match I think your idea is appropriate. I think if we're if we are truly removing Golden Lions from the title scene until there's a proper change of hands
Brian Hines:I see. I think
Jackman Ochs:that it should be a 2 a 2 person match.
Brian Hines:Alright. 2 team at a That's an a hole and b conversation and they'll see their way out of it.
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