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OVWP 32 “Bloom and Bud” Covering OVW Rise 1280, February 22, 2024

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Jada Stone:

Hey, guys. It is the spark, Jada Stone, and you're watching the OVW Podcast, and you better tune in because I'm here. Get it? Got it? Good.

Brian Hines:

Welcome to the OVW Podcast, the unofficial podcast of Ohio Valley Wrestling.

Brian Hines:

I am Brian Hine.

Jackman Ochs:

And my name is Jackman Ochs.

Brian Hines:

And today, we are getting into all the action from OVW Rise 1280 emanating live from historic Davis Arena on February 22, 2024.

Jackman Ochs:

We will also talk about that huge huge huge Manchester show that we were lucky enough to all attend, over the weekend. We also wanna thank Linda Kaye for showing up on this feed this past week.

Brian Hines:

Thank you, Linda Kaye.

Jackman Ochs:

And, we recorded a ton of interviews that day, this past Friday, the day of the Manchester show.

Brian Hines:

Boy, we sure did.

Jackman Ochs:

Looks like the first one to hit the the will be Tony Evans. Do I have that right? You are correct.

Brian Hines:

Yay. Alright. That was a good talk.

Jackman Ochs:

Let's get into some of the OVW headlines, Brian.

Brian Hines:

Alright. For starters, OVW Overdrive has returned. Tuesdays on YouTube, and Maybe TV, you'll have to call your local, cable provider and, find out if it will be on, TV at your house if it is not on YouTube.

Jackman Ochs:

We're talking about some real old school grassroots shit right there. Call your cable provider and ask for this program.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. I felt very, 20th century when I just said that. So I I feel a little old because I remember the days when, you actually had to do something like that.

TyniBrian:

I want my OVW TV.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, also looks like OVW will be partnering up with the Kentucky Derby during the 2024 run for the roses.

Brian Hines:

Okay. That is something new that I I did not know until I, sat down just now.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, I have

Brian Hines:

Do you have more information about that? What does that entail?

Jackman Ochs:

I knew it 10 minutes ago because I read my notes before today. Brian, can you

TyniBrian:

I literally

Brian Hines:

just Hold on.

TyniBrian:

Where's the trophy? Alright.

TyniBrian:

You win it, Jack.

Jackman Ochs:

Fair enough. Fair enough.

Brian Hines:

And this week's horse's ass of the week goes to Jackman Ochs.

Jackman Ochs:

Ty and Brian, could you tell us some more about this? Eric, do you have some more information about this?

TyniBrian:

I literally, literally, it it says now on my cell phone. Brian Kennison just answered my question. I asked, are we doing, like, a match at Run for the Roses? What how are you involved? And he was like, I can't say yet.

TyniBrian:

So he's still being evasive. Jackman, you are more tied in with wrestling than me and and perhaps more with, like, the the the Derby than I am being an eastern Kentucky boy and you being a a worldly, a man in the

Jackman Ochs:

A worldly central Kentucky boy.

TyniBrian:

Yeah. So may maybe you can do do you know what kind of involvement OVW's had with the Derby in previous years?

Jackman Ochs:

I I do not I do not think they've had anything. If I could guess, here's here's what I would here's what I would do. Here's what I think they're doing.

Brian Hines:

Okay. Let's hear what you think, and then I'll I'll give you what I think. And we'll just see where we we end up on this.

Jackman Ochs:

And then we'll see what actually happens, and I'll be very wrong, and you'll probably be closer to right. But I will see. For me, this, like, there's this idea that I'm not necessarily like a huge huge proponent of, but it's given me a lot of my favorite things in the world. And this is the idea of sports entertainment. Right? There is there's 2 things that exist in sports entertainment. It's professional wrestling

Brian Hines:

Okay.

Jackman Ochs:

When it's presented as sports entertainment, and there's the Kentucky Derby. This is the preeminent event for everyone in their world who makes fun of southerners for the rest of the 364 days of the year to come and act like they're a southerner. It is, like, actually the definition of sports entertainment. None of these people know anything about what's going on. None of these people care about the races.

Jackman Ochs:

They go and they get dressed up and they have a fun time and they take their pictures and the it's a social event. I think that at the I think that if sports entertainment was ever executed, and it it has been several times and might be even this year at WrestleMania 40, if it's ever executed to its highest level, it is about celebrity involvement and making it a social event, not a sporting event. That's what the Kentucky Derby is. It's a social event. I don't think it's a I don't think it's stupid to invite all these people that are in the social events into a sports entertainment event because I think that both of them I think they ride a lot of the same lines, lines, to be honest with you.

Brian Hines:

Okay.

Jackman Ochs:

Like, that's I just think I think that and on and honestly in all honesty, is horse racing the Kentucky Derby? No. Is wrestling WrestleMania? No. Are they the 2 biggest events in those two respective worlds?

Jackman Ochs:

Absolutely. Do they draw the biggest casual crowd in those two worlds? Absolutely. Why not try to marry some of that? Because a lot of the people that don't pay attention to horse racing show up to the Kentucky Derby. A lot of people that don't pay attention to wrestling show up to WrestleMania. I just think that I think that maybe that's me being cynical, but I think that this makes so much sense.

TyniBrian:

So I'm hearing cash flow and and Cal Hero ride horses on the, at the Kentucky Derby.

Jackman Ochs:

No. No.

Brian Hines:

Actually, here's what I think will happen. Provided there is a strong showing in a couple of qualifying races, I fully expect ZDP to run-in the Kentucky Derby in 2024.

TyniBrian:

Just no points.

Brian Hines:

Because I I can verify from personal experience that ZDP is very fast, and he will try really hard to run faster than every single horse out there. And I think he can do it. I believe in you, man.

TyniBrian:

So, yeah, among all these interviews we had last week or, man, what whatever ZDP is, we believe in it.

Brian Hines:

Yes. You. I I believe in you.

TyniBrian:

We believe in ZDP. Yes. Man, zombie, monster, whatever he is. But we we did try to interview ZDP last week. It did not go well.

Jackman Ochs:

We tried it a couple different times since you'd like to

TyniBrian:

see Yeah. There there will be those yeah. The what

Brian Hines:

I need to go back and see this.

TyniBrian:

Well, I'll show you what the I'll show you the the found footage that we we recovered from the scene.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. The found footage, like, very, Blair Witch

TyniBrian:

Yes.

Jackman Ochs:

Type stuff. Yeah.

TyniBrian:

Certainly at one point. So, yes, you will, you may have already seen, when Victor tried to go and greet, ZDP. He was looking around for him and got a lot more than he bargained for.

Jackman Ochs:

Mhmm.

TyniBrian:

And, we certainly helped Victor. We we believe Victor's doing alright. We we haven't actually seen him since then, but we will, we'll keep you posted.

Jackman Ochs:

I do wanna say one last thing about this Run for the Roses thing. Sure. Do we know the date of it? Is it the date of the Derby that year?

TyniBrian:

It's probably not because as I understand it again, I'm an eastern Kentucky boy, so we don't we don't truck with this decadent and depraved event generally.

Jackman Ochs:

If I well But Alright. Listen. Come on now. Come on now. Listen now.

TyniBrian:

If I It's a week long festival. It's my it's my thing. It goes all

Brian Hines:

Oh, it's part of the Derby Festival. Yes. Oh, perfect. Perfect. Perfect.

Jackman Ochs:

Yes. Okay. That that makes sense. Because they pretty well take the whole week off as a city in Louisville and just party.

TyniBrian:

Yeah. Thunder over Louisville. All of these things.

Jackman Ochs:

If you keep, putting me in with these Louisville folks, I'm about to we're about to not have a podcast. I I I like those folks. Don't put me. I'm from Central Kentucky, not from fucking Louisville. Those are 2 very different things. We don't like them either. Yeah. My Eastern Kentucky brethren. We don't like them either.

TyniBrian:

I don't know. You seem like you you go places and do things more than me. No. See well traveled man.

Jackman Ochs:

This is the thing. Is there

TyniBrian:

You're almost a Gonzo journalist.

Jackman Ochs:

I left my I left my my one stop light town. I started wearing skinny jeans, and everyone said, oh, Jackman, you're highfalutin'. Like, I didn't fucking like, I didn't jump trash in a sinkhole like everybody else did. Alright? Me too.

TyniBrian:

Okay.

Jackman Ochs:

Don't question my don't question my country because I got them. I have you ever, twisted a chicken up by the neck?

TyniBrian:

No.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay. Alright.

TyniBrian:

I had one twisted up over me once.

Jackman Ochs:

That's also traumatizing.

TyniBrian:

It was a big

Jackman Ochs:

in a very different way.

TyniBrian:

Yes.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. Don't, don't question my country credentials, man.

TyniBrian:

my apologies. So

Jackman Ochs:

Tell us about the Caldecott bride.

Brian Hines:

OVW is coming to the Lexington City Comic Con. That is March 7th through 10th.

Jackman Ochs:

Could I interrupt you right there? Were you were you planning on going to that?

Brian Hines:

I had planned on it. Yeah. What I'd hope How are

Jackman Ochs:

you how are you getting in?

Brian Hines:

I I don't I don't know.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, I was hoping you would tell me that we got media passes for that.

Brian Hines:

Oh, yeah. That is a thing that happened.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, wait. We did.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. We did.

TyniBrian:

Yes. We in fact got got got a media pass, just the one, but we did get one. So we did qualify. We are we are considered media. They'll if you take a moment to rejoice over that.

Jackman Ochs:

And if you wanna figure out which one of us is gonna be attending that day, you can meet us in the parking lot right across from Raperino while we're playing a really intense game of 2 out of 3 elimination, rock, paper, scissors in honor of the official official,

Brian Hines:

Yeah.

Jackman Ochs:

Staniel Spencer.

TyniBrian:

We we may we may just get some more passes. They will be there Friday through Sunday as I understand it.

Jackman Ochs:

And, boy, they've got a shitload of wrestlers there this week. Shitload well, in the coming weeks, I guess, at that event, they'll have a shitload of wrestlers.

TyniBrian:

They always do.

Brian Hines:

What exactly are I mean, they're not doing a show, are they? Not not. They're just going to be there en masse?

TyniBrian:

Yeah. They're gonna be there signing and selling merch, obviously.

Brian Hines:

Oh, cool.

TyniBrian:

And greeting. It's basically that ending that last 30 minutes of Davis Arena on a Thursday night.

Jackman Ochs:

Except for it last all weekend long.

TyniBrian:

Yes. Except there's somebody dressed as as Pokemon as Pikachu right over there. Well, just dressed as Pokemon. That's how he's dressed.

Jackman Ochs:

That is the you've never sounded older, my friend.

TyniBrian:

I am telling you. Yeah. You and your your kids and your Pokemon Do

Brian Hines:

do you know how that works?

Jackman Ochs:

you got a card with an s? Yeah. The Pokemon's. Yeah.

Brian Hines:

Yes. Like, you go and buy the Pokemon's cards at the Walmart.

TyniBrian:

That's what I hear.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. If I And

Brian Hines:

and then you watch, little, Pokemon's clips on the YouTubes.

Jackman Ochs:

Mom, do you think if I went back and mowed next to the sinkhole, we throw all the trash into, I can get a couple of Pokemon cards this week? That was my job.

Brian Hines:

Oh, good times.

Jackman Ochs:

Tell us about this tour update. OVW tour update. They're gonna be attending the, tailspin fest in Louisville.

Brian Hines:

Yes. They are going to be at the tailspin ale fest, and that is this Saturday, March 2nd at Bowman Field. And that is sponsored by Dano's seasoning. Yum yum get you some.

Jackman Ochs:

Jokes and magic happen in threes, so I'll say it again for a 3rd week here in a row. If you've never been to tailspin, go. If you're a craft beer fan, go. If you're a wrestling fan, go. If you're an OVW fan and a craft beer fan, now you have no excuse. Tailspin TailSpin Ale Fest is one of the all time great, craft beer events in in America. It really is.

Brian Hines:

Wow. That sounds, exciting and delicious.

Jackman Ochs:

I've only been for free. So

Brian Hines:

I I haven't been, and, we'll we'll see.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, that's our next year's media pass. It's the tailspin outfit.

Brian Hines:

Oh, is that it?

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. We only get 1 a year. We won't be able to go to Comic Con next year, but we'll be able to get really fucking drunk.

Brian Hines:

Alright.

Jackman Ochs:

It looks like they'll be not only in Des Plaines Des Plaines, Iowa on May 30 1st.

Brian Hines:

Gate. Long port, Long port, Indiana on June 31st, and then, of course, at Davis Arena every single week on Thursdays and some weeks on Saturdays.

Jackman Ochs:

Yes. On, March 16th, OVW, I wanna make sure that I read this properly so I don't say what I would ordinarily be inclined to say. March Mayhem. Mhmm.

Brian Hines:

Not Totally different. Yes.

TyniBrian:

Totally different. Get us sued by the incident.

Jackman Ochs:

No. No. No. I'm forget those people. March mayhem.

Jackman Ochs:

We will not say the thing that we are not allowed to say without paying money, so it is March Mayhem live on pay per view, and we have our tickets and, that's on March 16th? That is on March 16th. That is the day before Saint Patrick's Day. That's gonna be a busy day weekend for me because there's a Spot Monkey show in, Southern Ohio about 5 minutes from my hometown that I was gonna try to make the night before. And if I remember right, I've got a tattoo appointment that Saturday at 2 o'clock that I may have to try and move.

Brian Hines:

Where's the tattoo appointment?

Jackman Ochs:

It is at Studio 413 in Mount Orbe, Ohio.

TyniBrian:

Okay.

Jackman Ochs:

And actually, I won the gift certificate for that tattoo at the last Spot Monkey show that I, sponsored.

Brian Hines:

Well, this is what I was kinda thinking.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay.

Brian Hines:

We doing a 2 for that weekend? Spot Monkeys in Davis Arena that weekend? We take

TyniBrian:

the little, portable mic. We go get some good content. We we might be able to

Brian Hines:

I know that March is a little difficult for me, and I know you have other personal things going on, but, like, we need to if there's ever a 2 for like that that's presented to us ever again, we need to capitalize on that. And I mean They're they're I always want my tattoos, so I can join you at the

TyniBrian:

tattoo studio. That's fine. Do you

Jackman Ochs:

accept walk ins? Last I heard, they were like, the waiting list was, like, 3 or 4 months long.

Brian Hines:

Oh, I got cash. The we can find somebody.

Jackman Ochs:

We'll we'll see. I'll I'll I'll have your people reach out to to my people.

Brian Hines:

If you could have tiny Brian reach out to me, I will have tiny Brian reach out to you, and then we will we will coordinate.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay. And as a tip, we'll give each other $20.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. Sure.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay. Yeah. Great. Sure.

TyniBrian:

Guys, I I I'm your podcast producer, not your your tattoo agent.

Brian Hines:

Just No. You're just my regular agent. This is not about tattoos. This is just about, appearing, you know, payment, that kind of thing. Sure.

Brian Hines:

That kind of

TyniBrian:

thing. Okay.

Brian Hines:

So we are just as a side note here, we're not doing the preshow any longer on this podcast feed. Right?

TyniBrian:

And Overdrive is now its own thing. So, yes, we're not gonna cover it here.

Brian Hines:

Right. Right. And I just wanted to make sure that way if you're used to us covering the preshow inside of this feed, that will in within the coming weeks, once we figure out the best way to logistically do it, those shows will come in a smaller episode, on your feed as well.

Jackman Ochs:

Yes. So you won't be thinking now from us.

TyniBrian:

Actually thinking Victor and I might try to cover the preshow because we can kinda just pop down in the middle of the week and do it. Right. Yep. And it's a 15, 20 minute thing. It's not exactly a huge amount of of stuff.

TyniBrian:

So, you know, we may just we may just try to cover that for the

Brian Hines:

Don't ever forget. If you need to send Victor into his corner, it's right over there. Okay.

Jackman Ochs:

Nobody puts Victor in a corner.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. That's no. No. This is established OVW Podcast Lore. Victor can go into a corner.

Brian Hines:

It's called Victor's Corner.

TyniBrian:

Okay. Before we go any further,

Jackman Ochs:

I would like to take a second. And I don't know if you were aware of this, Jack, but, today is kind of a special day in OVW because it is the birthday of, the voice of the valley recording this. Eric Cornish.

TyniBrian:

As we are recording this comes new in the feed.

Brian Hines:

We we record on a Monday

Jackman Ochs:

night. Mhmm. Yes. So, he's a good guy.

Brian Hines:

Really good really

Jackman Ochs:

good guy. Really good guy. And I I hope that he has a really good

TyniBrian:

birthday guy.

Jackman Ochs:

Can we with a really good cake.

Brian Hines:

Can we also take this back just a second? Because we do really wanna on air here address because it does sound condescending and and and and juvenile to always say Eric Cornish good guy. That joke really only came from, like, when we started this thing, you were, like, one of the only guys who talked to us and recognized us. And, like, that's true. Like, that joke, the dude, seriously, if you're listening or or if you know him and and you were relaying information, that joke really only came out of the fact

TyniBrian:

that you are a good guy.

Brian Hines:

You continue to be

Jackman Ochs:

a good guy. Sincerely mean that. We think that you are a great guy.

Brian Hines:

And and now that we've been doing this long enough, we know that there's some not good guys on the OVW roster. Big Zod Shane Mercer, can you tell me about that match, please?

Jackman Ochs:

I wasn't Happy birthday, Cornish. Yeah. Happy birthday. I wasn't, expecting to see, this match right off the bat, but, nevertheless, here we are. It is, the next installment of who's gonna kick more ass this evening.

Jackman Ochs:

It is Big Zoe versus Shane Mercer. I guess they're doing a best of 7 series.

Brian Hines:

Yes. Yes.

Jackman Ochs:

And Brilliant. At first,

TyniBrian:

I thought they were starting fresh. Like, we were going to see the next 7 episodes of them, but they've actually taken into account the previous 3.

Jackman Ochs:

Right.

TyniBrian:

So that that's important to note because it did confuse me at

Jackman Ochs:

first. Forgive me for saying this, but we've seen the same match over and over again, and I don't have a problem with that. But I will say moving forward, with my statements that, a lot of these are starting to run together. So, long story short, at the end of this match, Big Zoh comes out on top, and that puts the final standings between the 2 at 2 wins for Big Zoh, 2 wins for Shane Mercer, and a non decision that, ended up in a, a Cabbage Patch store riot from, like, 1983.

Brian Hines:

So that means we're at 5 matches. We have 2

Jackman Ochs:

left. Well, if they don't count

Brian Hines:

1?

Jackman Ochs:

If they don't count the non decision, wouldn't somebody need to win 2 more matches?

Brian Hines:

Oh, no. I I feel feel like

TyniBrian:

No. They count the nondecision. Yeah.

Brian Hines:

I feel like that would

Jackman Ochs:

So it's still the first person to 4.

TyniBrian:

Yeah. If you see your notes, it starts out, 1, 2, and 1. Like, they literally list the non decision in their their thirds, and I think that's

Jackman Ochs:

I see that. But they still have to go to 4 to to declare a winner. Right?

Brian Hines:

I guess. Well, they would have it seems like the next winner would be the winner of the hole, seriously.

Jackman Ochs:

I don't know. I I was not aware that there was math involved tonight, so I just didn't sign up for that math.

TyniBrian:

There there is a math portion of this, of this wrestling podcast.

Jackman Ochs:

Will be passing.

Brian Hines:

Here's the thing is, like, you're doing a best of 7 series. This is, like, actually the type of thing that I all I need is wrestling fan is a little bit of stakes. And, like, something like the best of 7 series, I will watch the same match week in and week out as long as I know, like, we're going to a finite point.

Jackman Ochs:

I couldn't agree with you more. I like sirloin or t bone. No. I'm I'm right there with you, man.

Brian Hines:

I think we got a sirloin and a pork chop here between Shane Mercer and and Big Zoe. Who do you think takes home this, this best of 7 series? Because I have a feeling it's gotta be next week. I don't think we're gonna go all 7 weeks.

Jackman Ochs:

That's a tough call, man. They're so evenly matched.

Brian Hines:

Look at that.

Jackman Ochs:

I'm gonna go with Zoe.

Brian Hines:

I think that I see both sides of it. I'll give I'll give you my argument for both sides of it. Okay. Shane Mercer, everybody love him. Nobody's gonna complain.

Brian Hines:

Everybody gonna still love him. Big zo steals one from Shane Mercer. He can take the heat. People are gonna still love Shane Mercer. I kinda like Big Zoe winning the series.

Brian Hines:

I kinda like Big Zoe winning the series myself.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, well, we shall see, I'm sure, another installment this Thursday from Historic Davis Arena.

Brian Hines:

It'll it'll be the last one or the next last one. I guess we'll find out within 20, 25 minutes time. We have So

TyniBrian:

we don't feel like this is a thing that's going to mayhem?

Jackman Ochs:

Well, I'm sure it probably is. I mean, Mayhem's, 2 weeks away from

Brian Hines:

They're in perfect spot.

Jackman Ochs:

Away from this Thursday.

Brian Hines:

They're in a perfect spot to put it at mayhem, but, like, honestly, I kinda like I kinda like when best ofs don't go to the full extent. They don't do that in real sports. Well, they do it in most sports now.

Jackman Ochs:

But In sports entertainment, it it goes a little bit different, and I can almost

Brian Hines:

Exactly. Exactly.

Jackman Ochs:

That it's going to culminate at the March pay per view event that I won't try to remember off the top of my head because of legal reasons and money.

Brian Hines:

And even if one of them wins this upcoming match. Mhmm. There's still a couple more matches left in it. We know the way OVW likes to tell stories. It's stipulations.

Brian Hines:

It's crazy stuff. Let's just say this ends the best of 7 series ends. We are just we're going to ladders. We're going to tables. We're getting, what's what's it called?

Brian Hines:

The cow strap. We're getting all the stuff.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh,

Brian Hines:

the bull rope. The bull rope. Yeah.

TyniBrian:

They'll wrap Brian Kennison in chains. Yeah. Just

Brian Hines:

everything. Everything will be going. And honestly, man, at the outset of it, looking as, they've tempered the story now looking at it. I don't mind seeing a bunch of stipulation matches, but I also don't think it has to go to stipulation matches. I think you've done a great, like, best of 7 series.

Brian Hines:

Like, let's run with the original stipulation. But what do I know? Say that every week. What the fuck do I actually know?

Jackman Ochs:

I think it would be interesting if the final match was a a hardcore match and somebody Yeah. Yeah. During the match, somebody pulls out a bag from underneath the ring and instead of thumbtacks, it is, razor blades that are covered in Dano's Chipotle sauce or Dano's Chipotle seasoning.

Brian Hines:

Wait. This isn't Puerto Rico. We don't do that one.

TyniBrian:

That's a little match.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. That's a that's a death match that's a death match I've never fucking

Jackman Ochs:

heard of. Light tubes full of Dano's then. How about that?

Brian Hines:

Never made me wanna lick a light tube worse in my life. Bout number 2, dream

TyniBrian:

girl, Ellie. Stipulation.

Brian Hines:

As long as it's not the everything seasoning danos, I'm alright. I I like the danos. You can put on everything. You guys can use that one. Sponsor us, sponsor us.

Brian Hines:

You guys can use that one.

Jackman Ochs:

Book them danos.

Brian Hines:

The only thing I don't like

TyniBrian:

Just send us some danos.

Brian Hines:

The only thing I don't like is the everything danos. I like the danos you can put on everything. Danos for everything. Use that shit guys and send us some money, $25 at least I gotta pay for dinner. Dream dream girl Ellie and Freyja the sleigha here in about 2, mister Hines.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. Number 2 is dream girl Ellie versus Freyja the slayer. The, the bad girls fail to help Ellie because Haley comes to even the odds, and there is always outside interference when it comes to the bad girl's club. And there always has to be some retribution from, the non bad girls club.

Brian Hines:

Well, and, like, to to me, I I really loved the ending of this, Freya interfering or no. I'm sorry. Haley interfering for Freya and then also falling back into that special guest referee role. So, like

TyniBrian:

How do you see that?

Brian Hines:

Because she's the one that raised the hands. So not is she kind of interfered, and that's what she does. And, like, to be honest, there's not ever gonna be anything you're gonna do at this current point to stop the Hailey train. OVW is a v OVW, faithful are super into Hailey as they should be. She's a great star.

Brian Hines:

She's a great baby for what they do for her here in OVW. But I'd kind of between the chair and kind of the assumed position of, like, the referee again with the hand raising, I think that, I think we're gonna get Hailey versus Freya. And I think that for the first time, really since Netflix came out, wrestlers on Netflix came out, all these new fans came in, I think it's time to show, hey. Hailey could be a bad guy too. And I think it's gonna be against Freya.

Brian Hines:

I think that's gonna be great. I just really wonder how OVW's gonna the Davis Arena faithful are going to accept that.

Jackman Ochs:

I don't know. Like you said, Haley is pretty beloved in the, OVW fan universe. So

Brian Hines:

And not

TyniBrian:

only that, we went to

Brian Hines:

should be. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's not what I'm questioning. We went to the Manchester Music Hall Show over weekend.

TyniBrian:

Mhmm.

Brian Hines:

Which is a lot of fun. Great. I'd never been to one at Manchester Music. You guys had gone before. It was great, man.

Brian Hines:

And, like, I love those kind of when it's a venue that's not for wrestling that they show wrestling at. Like, I love I love that stuff. My 2 of my biggest takeaways, had a lot of them, throughout the night were on the women's side division, Frey and Haley are the most loved amongst the casual fans because these aren't the same fans that go to the area everywhere.

Jackman Ochs:

Right. Right.

Brian Hines:

See, these are people that live in Lexington. There's people that live closer to Lexington than they do Louisville. Like, these are new fans. A lot of them are. They knew to they knew to boo the bad guys.

Brian Hines:

They knew to cheer the good guys. So at this point, they're both cheering Hailey. They're both showing Freya. Those are 2 of the people that we love the most from the Netflix series. And then, it kinda looks like to me that we're gonna set them into a feud together.

Brian Hines:

I just kinda wonder how some of these new people to OVW are gonna react to Freya and Haley not liking each other.

Jackman Ochs:

It'll be interesting to find out. Yeah.

TyniBrian:

Who do you think is gonna be the heel in that situation?

Brian Hines:

It has to be has to be Hailey. If I was booking it, it would it's Hailey.

TyniBrian:

So you see a Hailey heel turn in our our future?

Brian Hines:

Tell me you don't wanna see Hailey fucking flip flop and fly across the ring 7 times after she gets, like, chopped by Freya once. Like, because and that's, like, that's what would happen. She's been working on these, like, backward, like, roles all all the way out, like Shawn Michaels and Hulk Hogan, Summer Slam 2005. Like, that's yes. That's what I want to see.

Brian Hines:

That is a 110% what I would like to see. And that's just kinda also what I think would happen, which if you listen to this podcast, you know, aren't always the same things. What I like to see and what I think will happen or what I want to happen and what I like to see, oftentimes don't see eye to eye. That's true. It's one of the hard parts about, hosting this thing in and out with you is you're pretty consistent, and nobody knows what I'm gonna say once we get on here.

Jackman Ochs:

I sure don't.

TyniBrian:

No. Me neither.

Brian Hines:

Bout number 3, Dustin Jackson, Dalton McKenzie versus the Golden Lions. Dustin Jackson, if you rewind a few years ago, is one of my favorite guys on the OVW roster. Oh, yeah. Absolute favorite guys. Yeah.

Brian Hines:

He was in a tag team. I believe they won the titles with Cal Hero.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, okay.

Brian Hines:

So, you know, when Dustin Jackson was

Jackman Ochs:

It couldn't be too long ago because Cal Hero is like, what, 12?

Brian Hines:

Something like that. 13. Just 13. Heavy Apartments. No.

Brian Hines:

But there's something, like, there was something very special about the Dustin Jackson and Cal Hero tag team from back in the day where they just were, like, just 2 people that it was really hard to hate and, like, 2 super good looking, you know, younger guys. Haven't seen Dustin Jackson at OVW in a while. Really one of my favorite guys from back in the day or at least a few years ago. Really glad to see him back. And then Dalton Mackenzie, a guy that you've seen several, several, several times, the guy that you brought to this table to tell us about way back with Dustin Jackson here tonight.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, yes. That's right. My my close personal friend, Dalton McKenzie. I was glad to see him, get a tag team match against, Cash and Shira. I'm sure that was a big opportunity for him, a big deal.

Jackman Ochs:

I didn't get a chance to talk to him about it because we weren't at Davis Arena this week, but I will ask him about it the next time I see him, which could be at the spot when he show.

Brian Hines:

And too with the returning Dustin Jackson where kind of the landscape of OVW has been completely reshaped since he left. It's nice to see him back in there as a guy I remember from before, guy I was really high on from before, be back in there with probably 2 of, if not the most 2 guys you wanna be in the ring with, Mahabaj share and cash flow. Yeah. Anywhere they go, it's magic.

TyniBrian:

Mhmm.

Brian Hines:

There's no no doubt about that. Tell me a little bit about the end of this match, Brian.

Jackman Ochs:

So, Dustin Jack Jackson and Dalton McKenzie were no match for the Golden Lions. Golden Lions come out with the win this week. I believe Cash was the one who got the pin, but at the end of the match, the celebration is cut short because the overmen appear and offer the Golden Lions a chance at the tag titles at March mayhem. But if the Lions lose, they won't be able to challenge the Overman again as long as they're tag team champs.

Brian Hines:

They're kind of, like, classic o w stuff here.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. Well, even going back to, like, you know, loser leaves town match.

Brian Hines:

Yep.

Jackman Ochs:

That kind of thing. I'm just glad to see that, whoever dressed Joe Mack did a better job than they did when,

TyniBrian:

Obviously, he wasn't gonna get his clothes ripped off this week. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, now clothes.

Jackman Ochs:

The, the shirt the sleeveless, button down

Brian Hines:

Do you know what they called the the denim, pants with the denim jacket?

Jackman Ochs:

That would be a Canadian tuxedo, of course. So he's

Brian Hines:

He's really leaning into the

Jackman Ochs:

He was really, really dressed to the nines on Thursday.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. He's going out. Oh, me.

TyniBrian:

Joseph Mac, evil Canadian. What a weird gimmick.

Jackman Ochs:

I didn't know that there was such a thing as an evil Canadian. I mean, I'm sure there probably are, but most of them seem like pretty cool folks. If they wrong you, they'll say sorry.

Brian Hines:

Side note side note here. I think that this is, like, one of the biggest, like, modern acting propaganda campaigns in the United, in the whole world, the United World. There's no way that every single one of this whole country is nice. There's just no way. There's no way.

Brian Hines:

They they prove something to the rest of the world that is no is not quantifiably approvable. If you come here, we're nicer than you. And if we meet you out in public, we're nicer than you. That's not quantifiable. Whoever whoever like chemtrails the Canadian government put out to convince us that they're all nice, good for you guys.

Brian Hines:

Good for you guys.

Jackman Ochs:

Hey. I believe it. Every time I see a Canadian Exactly. Every time I see a Canadian car on the highway, I wave to those folks.

Brian Hines:

I get So they feel wealthy. Far away. I get far away.

TyniBrian:

I I I actually, in my previous, the early part of my adulthood, I did a lot of customer service, and I wound up doing some Canadian customer service. And I will tell you that they are not all nice, and, you probably should. Exactly. What? No.

Jackman Ochs:

Exactly. What's that all about?

TyniBrian:

There's a dude from Saskatoon who was not very nice to me at all.

Brian Hines:

Exactly.

TyniBrian:

And he didn't even say And he

Brian Hines:

was from Michigan originally. Wait. No. No. Wait.

Jackman Ochs:

Saskatoon, Michigan. Ah, shoot.

TyniBrian:

No. Yeah. I meant, Sarsaparilla or or or Saratoga or

Jackman Ochs:

I think you're just making shit up at this point. Yeah. I mean, just pinch it off. It's a

Brian Hines:

it's a conspiracy theory. Everything's made up. The overmen, who do you think is gonna, win between this proposed match between the overmen and the golden lions?

Jackman Ochs:

Gut take,

Brian Hines:

golden lions. Gut take as you put it, same here. Dig it bundles versus big beef jack for about 4 from Jackman. Sorry. I'm reading the thing.

Brian Hines:

Sorry. That's how that's how clocked out I get whenever this big get bundles match on. He sucks. Big beef wins. Brian Hines about 5.

Jackman Ochs:

Donovan Cecil and t w three. What's her name again?

TyniBrian:

It's Tusts and Shades.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. Tusts and Shades.

TyniBrian:

I don't

Brian Hines:

want no Tusts and Chains, but you can wear me out.

TyniBrian:

I may have wrote if I put shades in the notes, I apologize. It is in fact tusks and chains.

Jackman Ochs:

You you

Brian Hines:

did not Formally known as at the lit. Wait. Sorry.

Jackman Ochs:

I still think

Brian Hines:

Lamb of the Disco.

Jackman Ochs:

Disco Stampede, but that's just me.

Brian Hines:

If if I have been a man

TyniBrian:

of the disco. It it it's kinda fun, actually.

Brian Hines:

What was Studio 54 like back in

TyniBrian:

the day? Oh, yeah.

Jackman Ochs:

Did they watch it?

TyniBrian:

Yeah. I was 6. They were just me and, me and

Brian Hines:

Drew Barrymore. Drew Barrymore. Yeah. David Boyd, Mick Jagger.

Jackman Ochs:

And you and, like, Andy Warhol and, like, Gene Stapleton from all in the family are all kinda hanging out before her party and Tiny.

TyniBrian:

Tiny. I get it. This isn't Andy Warhol. I get it. You're so big.

TyniBrian:

You're not tiny, but that is your identity. Yes. That's what Amy said to me. Let's get rid of let's get off this LSD trip and get back

Brian Hines:

to Sorry. Sorry. This isn't actually the right podcast for me to be doing any word impressions on. I don't think

Jackman Ochs:

No. Let let's keep it on track. Pinch it off.

Brian Hines:

Don with Cecil t w 3 versus beaches of creep.

Jackman Ochs:

Yes. That was, Mammoth at the disco. Another installment of of those 2 teams, t w 3 and, Donovan Sees. We're trying to get retribution for the injury to t w three's leg at, tough love. So there is a lot of bad blood between them, a lot of heat.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. A lot of heat.

Jackman Ochs:

No for sure. Very easy

Brian Hines:

to get. Very easy to get between these two teams. They seem like as if they could not be more different than each other, more moralistically or the way that they speak on microphone different than each other. I'm very much looking forward to this though, this whole thing. I really want t w 3 to get back into fighting shape even though, to be honest, he's hobbling around.

Brian Hines:

Does he not look like he's not in fighting shape?

TyniBrian:

He's better on one leg than most people are on 2. Yeah.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Jackman Ochs:

I mean, they're they're the 2 of them just work so well together. I mean, there were times when Donovan Cecil acted as a vehicle, and, Tida kind of, like yeah. Kind of, like, rode him into battle so they could go and and kick some ass. He, t w 3, was also a weapon, having been thrown by his partner onto the opposing team of Beaches and Cream. I mean, which is pretty impressive when you go back and look at it.

Brian Hines:

Well, these two teams, they have very different different chemistry, from one one another, not only in ring, but also on microphone whenever they're introduced into a microphone with each other. They're just 2 very different teams. It's a team versus 2 really wholesome guys who are willing to do the right thing no matter what versus a team of guys who, it at the beginning did not seem like they were going to ever devolve into being this bad but have become this bad and that's bad with 2 d's. Okay. The o v w country boy media championship match, we do wanna clarify.

Brian Hines:

We've talked about this back and forth, but I do wanna clarify it. This it's called the Country Boy Kentucky Media Headweight Championship. Right? It is and it's a it's a delineation from the old blue big blue belt that they had.

TyniBrian:

Yes. The big blue belt, the the the OVW Country Boy Kentucky heavyweight championship is gone. This is the OVW Country Boy Media Championship.

Brian Hines:

And me and you

TyniBrian:

Media Heavyweight Championship.

Brian Hines:

Tiny Brian, this past week, and I mean, it was what a hell of a day of recording that was, seriously. I know we'd mentioned it before, but, you were giving me a ride home and we were talking about what that means for the evolution of this belt. Right. And I think we both kind of decided from 2 different directions. And Brian, Hines, I'd like to get your viewpoint on this.

Brian Hines:

Do you think that do you think that that is just a way to expand that belt past the state of Kentucky now that they have they're going out of state at live shows, they're on Netflix, they're one of the largest, believe it or not and this is serious, They are seen in more homes than a lot of other international wrestling is seen in in internationally. Do you think that this was just a smart strategic choice to kind of move it over from being Kentucky centric, move it over from that big iconic Kentucky blue or what do you think? What's your opinion on this?

TyniBrian:

Well, I I kinda feel

Jackman Ochs:

like by doing that, they've got the best of both worlds. Mhmm. Because Country Boy Brewing, makes a variety of fine products, but they are based in

Brian Hines:

Kentucky. Kentucky.

Jackman Ochs:

Kentucky. That's right. So in that sense, it will always be a Kentucky based title being that it is tied directly to Country Boy Brewing, Delicious Country Boy Brewing. But at the same time, they smartly made the decision to make it a, I mean, what we would have called it back in my day, back in the mid eighties, you know, when I was a kid, a TV title.

Brian Hines:

Back when no one went on your mail on your lawn. Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

Jackman Ochs:

But times have changed, and this is the 21st century, and it's not just about TV anymore. It is about social media in general. So this is the Kentucky media title, so I kinda feel like it it represents the best of both worlds. It also it solidly represents Kentucky while including the rest of the world in Kentucky related things. In this case, Country Boy Beer, which is delicious, and Ohio Valley Wrestling, which is also in Kentucky.

Brian Hines:

So for me, I think that and I've talked about this a little bit in the past, but I haven't really delved very deeply into it. I agree with everything you just said because I think keeping Kentucky Kentucky country boy or country boy by itself in the delineation of it is important. But for me, this is this is another and this isn't a bad place to be by researching the imagination.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay.

Brian Hines:

This is another dip into the impact well. This is, like, so so impact wrestling to just, like, have a media championship or an Internet championship or, like, something like that. And, like, as long as the writing is good and as long as people care, I don't fucking care if how many championships there are. There's a lot of people that say, oh, the more championships there are on television, the more it it, you know, it it takes away from what each individual championship is about. I don't know if I necessarily believe that unless you can find me saying that on this feed, and good luck.

Brian Hines:

Please send it

Jackman Ochs:

to me.

TyniBrian:

A lot of things on this page.

Brian Hines:

And please and please send and please send it to us so I can address it and tell you that you're stupid and how smart I am. But, this this kind of just this kind of just, this reminds me so much of, like, impact. Like and I don't have I love impact. As long as the story is being written around the belt are compelling and the character is being written about belt are compelling, then have as many belts as you fucking want. I don't care.

TyniBrian:

I don't care.

Jackman Ochs:

I feel like they kinda have the, the Goldilocks level up belts right now. Not too many, not too few, just right. Except for maybe women's tag. That's a whole other story.

Brian Hines:

That is a whole other story. That is actually a completely other story, a completely other scenario than what I'm describing now. But if you would like to find someone's thoughts on this newly debuted belt, you can find it Thursday in the feed, right, when we sat down with superior Tony Evans?

Jackman Ochs:

Hush.

TyniBrian:

We were so busy on Thursday. I don't even remember most of those interviews. So you guys

Brian Hines:

probably know that According according to the according to the notes, which we're seeing Tony Evans on Thursday. Right?

TyniBrian:

We are in fact. Yes.

Jackman Ochs:

So, yes,

Brian Hines:

if you wanna hear Tony

TyniBrian:

Evans about the time but he talks about the media champion.

Brian Hines:

He talks about the media championship. He talks about Cal Hero. He talks about all kinds of different things going on in OVW if you wanna hear any of his viewpoints here, there, or above. Let's, let's talk about the ending of this match a little bit, Brian.

Jackman Ochs:

So at the end of this match, as you might suspect, there is a a visitor who makes his presence known, and that is the superior one, Tony Evans himself.

Brian Hines:

Mhmm.

Jackman Ochs:

Accompanied to the ring by Jay De Niro, who, also stopped by on on Friday.

TyniBrian:

Yeah. And if you wanna on our feed, by the way.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, if you wanna

Brian Hines:

know what De Niro is like Yeah. If you wanna know what Tenaro is all about.

Jackman Ochs:

That that is, an OVW podcast exclusive. That is an unofficial exclusive because, when he stopped by on Friday, he, said that if we wanted to, we could we could talk about, who Jaden Nero is. And, we we, well, I I got a chance to talk to him and he kinda broke it down for me. So if you're curious about that.

Brian Hines:

If I could put it anyway Okay. You talk to De Niro. You talk to Jay De Niro.

TyniBrian:

I

Brian Hines:

mean You and I talk to a different guy, but if people wanna hear what Jay De Niro is and who Jay De Niro is, you can find it with just this guy right here. You're the one that broke the

TyniBrian:

You you were busy doing

Jackman Ochs:

other things.

Brian Hines:

You broke the exclusive.

TyniBrian:

That that was

Brian Hines:

You know what I was doing? Eating taco salad.

TyniBrian:

You broke you broke

Brian Hines:

the exclusive.

TyniBrian:

No. You were here you were here in the studio. Let me give you a fucking compliment, David. Alright. That's easy.

TyniBrian:

Let's not blow out the mics now.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. We can't afford it anymore. We all we're already working together.

TyniBrian:

Deep breaths.

Brian Hines:

No. See how to move

TyniBrian:

the rest of the day.

Jackman Ochs:

I know you're excited. I'm excited too. It was a fun day. It was a a very exciting day in the history of our our podcast. We we had a lot of people come by.

Jackman Ochs:

We had some interviews scheduled because it was right before the Manchester show, and we are located the the Nuthouse Studios are squirreled away as it were in the, center of the distillery district in Lexington, Kentucky, which made the the venue later on the evening, very accessible. So we had some people stop by, and we, had some interviews scheduled, and and then we had some people who, we we didn't expect to stop by and we we got a chance to talk with them too and we did some, things and and they were fun and we all ate tacos and played video games and watched wrestling and it was, like, the best mid afternoon 3 to 4 hour sleepover I think I've ever had.

Brian Hines:

Of all of the things that we've had around here that we shouldn't have had, whether it be here in this space or as an podcast. Getting to sit down and watch this very TV show that we're covering right now with all the wrestlers, all of them giving each other advice. That was surreal. It was insane. That was completely surreal.

Brian Hines:

It was insane. It felt like I was watching a documentary. It felt like I was watching a documentary.

Jackman Ochs:

It felt like we were living wrestlers season 2 because we were hanging out with the wrestlers Yeah. 2 or 3. Their show. It was it was just a really, really cool day. I don't I don't know how to even begin to talk about that and not spend hours upon hours.

Jackman Ochs:

So we'll save that for another time. Catch me out on the street, and we'll we'll tell those stories. But for now, at the end of this match This

TyniBrian:

is cow hero and star rider.

Jackman Ochs:

This is this is still cow hero and star rider. Jada Niro, sneaks the loaded baked potato glove into the fanny pack of cow hero as he's going as he's picking star rider, And, the ref sees it. That would be, the official Jake Cloyd in this case, and, disqualifies Cal Hero.

Brian Hines:

2 things. Jay Cloyd, looks a really like a really, really, really concerned version of a friend that I have. Like, it just like, he just looks like he's so concerned all the time, but he looks like a twin of my other friend, Derek. That's first things first.

Jackman Ochs:

This Maybe they should try 23 and me.

Brian Hines:

We've been hearing this this thing from some of the guys on the roster. Been hearing this thing from some of the guys on the roster.

Jackman Ochs:

We have.

Brian Hines:

It's one one sentence. Okay. Few words, handful of words. Cal hero is not a baby face. I'm not saying that this was not Cal hero being a baby face, but I am saying that something like this, when he starts to get comfortable with the idea of a glove.

Brian Hines:

When he starts to get comfortable with the idea of cheating. When he starts to get comfortable with the how quickly guys like Jay De Niro and Tony Evans have success. Not only that, coupled that with some of these things that, accusations that other people have been lobbing around on.

Jackman Ochs:

We did hear that a few times.

Brian Hines:

That's what I'm saying.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. So do you with that being said, I don't mean to cut you off, but do you believe that this is the beginning of the heel turn for hero?

Brian Hines:

I will say this from week in week out from now on. And it's only because I've been shown it by a couple of people that I now respect and now understand because they were happy enough to sit down and glad enough and and and and welcome enough to sit down with us here. I will say this week in week out from now on, thank you Luke Curtis, Thank you, Superior Tony Evans. Cal hero is not a baby face. I'm willing to roll with that from now on.

Brian Hines:

I was shown it. I was so stupid. I was so blind to not believe it before, but you sit down with some of these guys and they make a really really compelling argument and what they were those those guys weren't the only 2. Those guys weren't the only 2, but they make a really compelling argument. And now I'm starting to understand, it hurts me to say, maybe Cal Hero isn't a baby face.

TyniBrian:

Well, the proof of the pudding's in the eating.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay.

TyniBrian:

Well, that's the real expression. Everybody says the proof is in the pudding, but the real expression is the proof of the pudding is

Jackman Ochs:

in the eating. Hey. I love pudding as much as the next guy.

TyniBrian:

Maybe you don't like it if it's good. If it's bad,

Jackman Ochs:

then Sure. If if it's that is unproven pudding. Poop pudding, then nobody wants that.

TyniBrian:

Yeah. And it's hard to know. Yeah. So we'll see.

Jackman Ochs:

So alright.

TyniBrian:

So Here comes my Yep. This is this is a thing.

Brian Hines:

Yep. Mhmm.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, yeah.

TyniBrian:

Todd just discovered the mess.

Brian Hines:

Yep. Toddy Brian. Toddy and Brian, since this is this is the thing for you, why don't you walk us through this because we're gonna tread lightly here.

TyniBrian:

This feels weird.

Jackman Ochs:

We're gonna tread

TyniBrian:

real shouldn't have a segment I lead.

Brian Hines:

You know it's real bad when Jackman is the one that says we're gonna tread lightly

Jackman Ochs:

This this Carson Drake segment. I mean, I got nothing against Carson Drake. Oh, by the way, happy belated birthday to the most punchable face in OVW, Chris. No. Oh.

Jackman Ochs:

No. 2nd he was the second most. Remember, we

Brian Hines:

we talked about this together. Disagree on that. I'm back after seeing him in public and seeing how good looking he is compared to be.

TyniBrian:

Okay. He he is a very handsome young man. I'll give

Brian Hines:

you that.

Jackman Ochs:

I don't like it.

Brian Hines:

I don't like how good he is.

Jackman Ochs:

Does does he have

TyniBrian:

the most punchable face in OVW? I you mentioned Carson Drake, and

Jackman Ochs:

now I'm kinda leaning towards that. But either way, happy late Thursday.

Brian Hines:

Carson before I

Jackman Ochs:

could go ahead. It's me, Carson Drake.

Brian Hines:

Oh, wait, though.

Jackman Ochs:

But, this Carson Drake segment, I mean, if this were an episode of Sesame Street, this segment would be brought to you by the letter t for turd in a punch bowl.

Brian Hines:

Okay. So I actually was thinking about this a lot. And I'm

Jackman Ochs:

sorry, dude. This went on, like, way too long.

Brian Hines:

It did. No. It absolutely did. And I'm not gonna sit here and tell you that it that it didn't because I know and you know and Tony Brian knows and Malcott PSW knows and a bunch of other people know

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, yeah.

Brian Hines:

That this thing went on for way too long. This is what I would describe this as is, like, one of my favorite movies of all time is called The Room. Right? And so it's like this Oh, no. It's like this idiot savant movie, like outsider cinema and, like, I will go there's a lot of people who think that this movie is, like, so good because it's bad.

Brian Hines:

I actually am the opposite. I'm like, no. This is like a great movie that you guys don't understand. The director and writer of that, star of that, started a movie called, or he he wrote a television series, 32 episodes of television series called The Neighbors. Within 7 minutes of within 7 minutes of the neighbors, everything that I thought I liked about Tommy Wiseau and the room had been completely extinguished even though it was just exactly the same things I liked about the movie.

Brian Hines:

Does that make sense? I like Carson Drake. I like Ryan Von Rocket. But when I'm shown it in long form, I cease to like it anymore.

TyniBrian:

Well, I mean and and incidentally, folks, for those of you on audio, Brian did just hold up a sign that said help me in the middle of that, room situation.

Brian Hines:

And here's the thing, Brian. You haven't watched The Room, and when you do, you'll

Jackman Ochs:

understand how beautiful it is. But when you get off on a tangent, I'm like, where are we going with this, fam? I'm not entirely sure.

Brian Hines:

Hold on. Hold on. I got something for you, fam. If you need to structure your settlement and you need cash now,

Jackman Ochs:

Call JG Wentworth. 877 cash now.

Brian Hines:

So every time if I need to go out for a tangent, just roll with me once in a while.

TyniBrian:

Roll with me. Good bye. Alright. Alright. Roll if that's a joke, then we'll make sense in a few weeks.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. That that is, us telling the punch line before you hear the joke. So

Brian Hines:

No. That's called a radio tease. That's what they call that.

Jackman Ochs:

I don't know what you just said, little kid, but I believe you.

Brian Hines:

Anyway, let's we've we've almost gone on and long about this thing. How much did you all make out?

Jackman Ochs:

Thank you very much to Ryan Von Rocket to putting an end to this even if it was taking a, baby powder guitar to the head.

Brian Hines:

2 things on the way out this thing went well, a few things. This thing went way too long, didn't serve anybody, didn't serve anybody. I love Alexander. You asked me last week on this why I thought this is a bad thing. This is why.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, I see.

Brian Hines:

I knew that she was gonna be taking moves that looks like shit from Crystal and Katie when she's really, really good. And the last time I saw her on TV for any, length of time was when she was a valet against the other guy in the feud. So for me, it just doesn't like, yeah, I like seeing her on TV more. I'd want her to get every opportunity she possibly can. For me as a fan of hers, this doesn't serve her either.

Jackman Ochs:

To be fair, I don't think this bit served anybody really.

Brian Hines:

No. I think

TyniBrian:

it It served Carson Drake. Yeah.

Jackman Ochs:

I was gonna say. Alright.

Brian Hines:

And you know what it's

TyniBrian:

called? Did it? You know

Brian Hines:

what it's called when you serve yourself? Masturbation. About 7, Brian Hines.

Jackman Ochs:

I'm gonna go grab a Kleenex. This was Hollywood, Haley j versus Hema. Yeah. And,

Brian Hines:

My new my one of my favorite wrestlers, new favorite wrestlers on the entire roster.

Jackman Ochs:

Let me scroll past the, the Carson Drake debacle. Yeah. Still

Brian Hines:

scrolling. Still going on. We have this on 2 and a half time and it's still going on?

Jackman Ochs:

Yes. This is on 1 and a half speed, and it is still going on. It it is like, War and Peace of, wrestling.

Brian Hines:

No. I actually like Dostoevsky. Well, I didn't like anything that was going on in that fucking Yeah.

Jackman Ochs:

This was a a whole separate gig altogether. Yeah.

Brian Hines:

Oh, oh, welcome to the only wrestling podcast that, references Russian literature. Yeah. You guys, I'm welcome.

Jackman Ochs:

The rest

TyniBrian:

of them or not.

Jackman Ochs:

The rest of them don't Stoyevsky.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. Boom. Oh.

TyniBrian:

God, I wish I'd written that joke. Go go with the thing.

Jackman Ochs:

I'm just gonna sit here and and bask in the glory. You you pick it up whenever you want.

Brian Hines:

But That's so good. Yeah. There you go. Good.

Jackman Ochs:

Not bad for off the cuff. Hey, kids?

TyniBrian:

So so Hollywood, Haley j, and Hema. Jesus. So I lost my host. Jesus.

Jackman Ochs:

We'll go ahead and get through bout 7, and we'll, check off that off the list.

Brian Hines:

Can't help but feel that here, that Hema was the idiot compared to Hollywood daily j. Oh, oh, you would yeah. You wouldn't know. Well oh, you didn't think we could do more than 1 Russian Toy Story book? See, I didn't know that I did.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, okay.

TyniBrian:

I see.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. Okay. I know.

Brian Hines:

I know. I know. Literature reference. Oh, no. No.

TyniBrian:

No. Yeah. Feel us losing listeners.

Brian Hines:

So now we are the only wrestling podcast that can do 2 Russian literature, references in the episode.

TyniBrian:

If we'll be the only one that keeps their listeners after doing it. So anyway,

Brian Hines:

Listen. Wait. Keep going. I gotta think of another Russian literature book.

TyniBrian:

I

Brian Hines:

ran I ran out of the 2 I knew.

Jackman Ochs:

This will be the second time we see Hollywood Haley Jay this evening. This will be the first time we saw Hema tonight. Correct?

Brian Hines:

Yeah.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. She wasn't out there with the bad girls club? Mm-mm.

Brian Hines:

Okay.

TyniBrian:

Was she behind the scenes when they were talking to her early on? I think she was with the I

Jackman Ochs:

I think she might have been, but this would be the first time she actually made a physical appearance during the show and not just a, video clip.

TyniBrian:

These do seem like 2 halves of the of of of a whole here. The the earlier match, the earlier women's match, and this one.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, sure.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. Yes. That reminds me of one of my favorite Russian literature books. Malachi edit this in when we figure one out that matches that. Thank you.

Brian Hines:

Thank you. Appreciate that, Malachi.

TyniBrian:

Okay.

Brian Hines:

E c 3 and, Shannon the dude come to the ring to brag about e c 3 boot beating Luke Curtis here.

Jackman Ochs:

Wait. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Hold on.

Jackman Ochs:

Luke, you

Brian Hines:

wanna go You wanna

Jackman Ochs:

Let's, go back and finish this last I'm

Brian Hines:

out of dossier for references.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay. Alright. K. We'll we'll go back, and we'll do this match, and we'll check off have to. Check off the list as it were.

TyniBrian:

He tried that earlier, and it went past me too.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. And so we'll we'll circle back around. You know, sometimes you gotta drive around the block until you find a parking space, kids. That that's how that works. Bad girls and Freya fight outside the ring, and Hema has a chair.

Jackman Ochs:

And she tries

TyniBrian:

to use it on Hailey, but Hailey turned it

Jackman Ochs:

against her. So that's where we are, the ongoing, battle between the Bad Girls Club and the, Hollywood, Haley j, and Freya. So there. You tell us about the the EC 3 and Sketchers and all that.

Brian Hines:

So one of them is really, really, really poor, and the other one's really, really, really rich.

Jackman Ochs:

Were there potatoes involved?

Brian Hines:

There's a lot of class struggle going on.

Jackman Ochs:

I thought so.

TyniBrian:

Okay. We are not a Russian literature podcast.

Brian Hines:

That that's what this is wrestling this time. This is wrestling this time.

TyniBrian:

Hey. I'm sorry. Hey. Get it right.

Brian Hines:

Yeah. No. This is wrestling this time.

Jackman Ochs:

I mean it.

TyniBrian:

Okay. I'm sorry.

Brian Hines:

EC 3 EC 3 and

Jackman Ochs:

Shannon, the dude

TyniBrian:

come to the come to the room.

Jackman Ochs:

I'm sorry. I tried to keep straight face.

Brian Hines:

Oh. Ma'am, cut this. Ma'am, cut this. I know I say it all the time as a joke. Mark it down, Malachi.

Brian Hines:

There you go. Cut it. E c 3 and Shannon

TyniBrian:

the dude come to the ring to brag about how he beat Luke Curtis. And the the struggle of

Brian Hines:

e c 3 and Shannon the

TyniBrian:

dude the c the struggle of e c 3 with Shannon the dude versus Luke Curtis really is a struggle about class, warfare, becoming a good person after you feel like you've been such a bad person for a long time. Can you please tell us a little bit about this Russian literature piece that's going down in OVW?

Jackman Ochs:

See, I thought the, underlying theme here was about, being able to use a microphone to successfully cut a promo that everybody will be able to hear because you're speaking loud enough and you're not mumbling in your bedroom into a hairbrush.

Brian Hines:

I like where your head's at because not only is this about not mumbling while you're doing a prerecorded speech thing. This is about how you do a prerecorded video segment in OVW.

TyniBrian:

The, Luke Curtis, his video segment here, it looked perfect.

Jackman Ochs:

Yes. That was a stark contrast to the, EC 3 promos. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Luke looks like $1,000,000.

Jackman Ochs:

He's, you know, out enjoying nice weather, enunciating clearly. Very well lit.

TyniBrian:

Very well lit. Horizontal orientation. The whole screen?

Brian Hines:

Yeah. If this was an iPhone, it was definitely one of the new ones. I'll say that much. Yeah. Like, this was like, to be to be honest, this was something we come in and complain about week in and week out.

Brian Hines:

How bad some of these backstage video segment these, like, remote shot video segments look. Everybody in wrestling take note at how you do this. It's the way Luke Curtis did this this past week. Yeah. Seriously.

Brian Hines:

Like, from from all the way down to all the way up and all the way back in between. If you wanna shoot a fucking backstage segment or, like, interview segment or whatever, Luke Curtis this week. That's how you do it. That's how you do it.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. So that, video package was very, certified?

Brian Hines:

Absolutely. 10 out of 10 cert 11 out of 10 certified, actually.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. This video goes to 11.

Brian Hines:

And 20 out of 10 baddie as well. I'm I'm being willing to say that as well. Yeah. And also shout out to my friends who only referred to Luke Curtis as daddy. Main event of Rise

Jackman Ochs:

here. The main event, was human thumb, Adam Revolver

Brian Hines:

That guy.

Jackman Ochs:

Versus shotgun Tony Gunn.

Brian Hines:

Oh, that guy.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. That guy. That's right.

Brian Hines:

Tony Gunn never appears. Adam calls him out, but the golden wires appear and attack him at the end of the show. Kind of It

Jackman Ochs:

was kind of an odd segment. I didn't. I mean, it wasn't the best there is.

Brian Hines:

No. No. Wasn't the best there

Jackman Ochs:

is. No.

Brian Hines:

And the best there is was nowhere to be found, unfortunately.

Jackman Ochs:

That that's true.

Brian Hines:

And, like, to be honest, man, you're running a dangerous game when you're promising Tony Gunn in the main event and you're not having Tony Gunn in a main event, David Cirito, man. Like, you need that's that's the kind of guy people talk about, like, blood, sweat, and tears, heart, and soul

Jackman Ochs:

or being

Brian Hines:

a warm fuzzy center or, like, whatever. That's Tony Gunn. Like, that's Tony Gunn and OVW. I I think that it is I think that it is a mistake to say Tony Gunn's gonna come out and then you never see Tony Gunn.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, I mean, who knows? He he's a lot he might have a lot going on these days. He's a soon to be dad. Yeah. Absolute and So maybe there was a a last minute thing and, you know, some people break wind.

Jackman Ochs:

Sometimes people break water. Maybe it was one of those situations.

Brian Hines:

God. Don't ever say that to me again.

TyniBrian:

I won't. I thought I

Brian Hines:

was the dirty one. No. But, seriously and, like, I'm not I'm not gonna be this wrestling fan that comes on here or or whatever we are, halfway journalists, pseudo journalists, whatever the fuck we are. I'm not gonna be the guy that comes on here every week and say, I need to see my guy every single week because that's my guy and I wanna see him. But I am gonna say, don't tell me something that isn't gonna happen.

Brian Hines:

And that's that that is like a Venn diagram kind of

Jackman Ochs:

Don't pee on my shoe and tell me it's raining.

Brian Hines:

Don't pee on my shoe. Don't spit in my face. I usually say don't spit in my face and tell me it's raining because pee on the shoe, you have to pay for it.

Jackman Ochs:

But I'm I'm going with my, judge Judy references.

Brian Hines:

I guess I just I really do kind of, like we can if Tony Gunn's gonna show up or he's not, just let us know. But if you're gonna book Tony Gunn at this point, you gotta make sure he's there.

Jackman Ochs:

I think I figured out what, I think I figured out what happened. What happened? There was a 7 day waiting period, and they just couldn't get him yet. It's as simple as that.

Brian Hines:

They didn't we OVW didn't pass the background checks

Jackman Ochs:

for Tony Gunther. No. They

TyniBrian:

didn't. Well, even if he had shown, there was none it was it literally the the his his music hits at, like, 858. Yep. Are we gonna have a 92nd match? You know, this was never going to be a match.

Jackman Ochs:

To be honest It was just a a a a literary foil to advance the, story between the golden lions and the, human thumb and the Canadian giant?

Brian Hines:

Do you want me to be honest, though, as a separate question? I don't

TyniBrian:

seem to be able to stop you.

Brian Hines:

OVW OVW needs way more 92nd matches, to be honest with you. Yeah. No. Like, was it should we have one as the main event? No, to answer your question.

Brian Hines:

But if you're asking me from a wrestling fan, we've probably almost every week, week in week out after covering the show for a long time, probably could use a 92nd match. If we get

Jackman Ochs:

7 92nd matches

Brian Hines:

That's what I'm saying.

Jackman Ochs:

Every every week, we could see every single person in the locker room. No problem. Just 90 seconds a day, you could sponsor

Brian Hines:

I'll go I'll go back to

Jackman Ochs:

Just a cup of coffee.

Brian Hines:

I'll go back to Freya versus Anhelica risk. That that's the type of thing I'm talking about. That should've been 92nd match. I'm saying once a week, maybe once every 3 weeks, there should just be a typical old school squash. That doesn't have anything to do with what we were talking about, but, like, you're asking about a 92nd match.

Brian Hines:

That's my opinion on a 92nd match. It's, like, they need more of them. They need a lot more of them if I was booking the show, but I don't. I just come in here and complain. So

Jackman Ochs:

Alright then. Tell us how you really feel. Wait. Don't

Brian Hines:

let's, Tony Gunn never appears, of course, like we said.

TyniBrian:

And it's just a big schnoz.

Brian Hines:

They're they're all final.

Jackman Ochs:

The schnozberries.

TyniBrian:

I do like that word, and I'm glad to have a profession now where I get to use it regularly.

Brian Hines:

Let's go, match by match here because we were lucky enough to go to

TyniBrian:

the Manchester. Yes.

Jackman Ochs:

We'll we'll move on to the the Manchester show.

Brian Hines:

But let's just go let's run through this, like, quick, match by match. Maybe a couple little notes here and there. Okay.

Jackman Ochs:

Match number one was a rush championship match. It was a 6 man scramble, which we had heard about, previously in the afternoon. It came up with our talk with, sultan of air, Iran.

Brian Hines:

Mister Iran.

Jackman Ochs:

Sultan of the sky. I'm going by the, the Japanese translation. I bought this at Tough Love, and I used Google translate to see what the Japanese text meant, and I believe it says the sultan of air. So, in Japanese, that's what it is. So.

Jackman Ochs:

6 man scramble, Will Austin, Orion, our own personal friend, Maximo Suave, Star Rider, ZDP. ZDP, my favorite demon, and Hoda Pesos.

TyniBrian:

The rush champion.

Jackman Ochs:

The rush champion.

Brian Hines:

This was, Will Ostentro. Yeah. I got the the chance to talk to Will after this and, like, I don't wanna bring back too much of the the curtain or show too too much of the sausage. But talking to Will that night, it was very clear to Will that he knew he killed it. It's very clear to Will that he knew he killed it.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, as he should because he did. Everybody in that in that match put on a a a great match. I mean, for me, obviously, it was it was ZDP. I mean, he, like, just holding before the match even started, holding the

TyniBrian:

No. The match had started.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, I mean, nothing really happened.

TyniBrian:

Happened. The bell had rung.

Jackman Ochs:

The bell had rung, but in earnest, it had not started. Both hands grasping the top rope, just hitting his head into the turnbuckle. I think we lost count in forties.

Brian Hines:

I was gonna say they counted way past 10.

TyniBrian:

It it was he they made it to 40,

Jackman Ochs:

and then they just kinda stopped counting because they were in awe. And quite frankly, I was too.

Brian Hines:

Well and also shout out to all the other guys in that match.

TyniBrian:

Who just stood there

Brian Hines:

and realized something good was happening. Yes. Yeah. Like, seriously. Like, shout out to those guys for all being really well seasoned professionals and realizing, like, hey.

Brian Hines:

Let's let's let's let's let's

TyniBrian:

let's let's let's

Jackman Ochs:

I mean, as always, one of my favorite parts of his EDP match is, going after Eric Cornish, who, if you didn't know already, is a good guy. And just had a birthday. And and just had a birthday. If you're just tuning

Brian Hines:

in with us on this podcast, Eric Cornish is a good guy and just had a birthday.

Jackman Ochs:

What was I gonna say about that?

TyniBrian:

That they chased it and

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, in in case you're wondering, in my head, every time I see ZDP chase Eric Cornish around the ring, I hear, Boots Randolph yakety sacks in my head from the old Benny Hill days.

TyniBrian:

We can't afford it, so go look it up.

Jackman Ochs:

No. We can't afford it, but,

TyniBrian:

I can look it up. That's not public domain yet? It might be, but I I'm not gonna

Brian Hines:

It's at least so close that it is. This is like the type of match too, man, like these guys. This is at a show like the Manchester, you're gonna have a lot of people who are new to the product, new to the wrestlers, have never been to a wrestling show before period. And that's like the that's the truth of the matter of those kind of shows. That's a fine thing.

Brian Hines:

Like, that's a good

TyniBrian:

because that's, like, a fun thing to do on a Friday night.

Brian Hines:

That's a good thing.

Jackman Ochs:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. It was.

Brian Hines:

Is to get more people in, get spend the money. Let's get a paycheck. If you are a kind of casual viewer of OVW or casual viewer of wrestling, You start off with this match, period. That's smart. It's smart.

Brian Hines:

Jotapesos manages to retain.

Jackman Ochs:

Congratulations, champ. 6 woman tag, bad girls, Tiffany and Hema versus Freya and The newly, coined team of America's sweethearts, and that was Sofia Rose and Lady Bird. Lady Bird.

Brian Hines:

Yeah.

Jackman Ochs:

Who really are starting to gel as a team. They're really, coming into their own.

TyniBrian:

They give me hope that we're on the way to a women's tag belt.

Brian Hines:

Yes. Dude, I said it already.

Jackman Ochs:

I I second that.

Brian Hines:

When they first started coming out and they just they were the only 2 the only newly minted team who was not playing catch up, basically. They they were, I think, from the fans' viewer point. Clearly given the the direction, you guys are a tag team. You guys aren't singles people who are coming together to tag. You guys are a tag team and those are 2 different things.

Brian Hines:

And, like, I'm really glad to see this team, sprout out. Really glad to see them on, TV, although it'd be in the preshow every week. And then getting an opportunity like this with Freya, who everyone in the crowd was wild about. Everyone in the crowd knew and was wild about. And then they get given this platform to say, oh, we're here too.

Brian Hines:

And they did it, man. It was awesome.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. It was awesome. Yeah. That was a great match. OVW media championship match makes

TyniBrian:

a lot of sense here.

Brian Hines:

Tony Evans with Jay De Niro would have been what his only his second opportunity to even contest the belt. Right? Right.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. It's only been, like, what, 10 days since the the belt was unveiled, but, Evans had a ton of heat on that night. Mhmm. I mean, everybody in the crowd was chanting Tony sucks.

Brian Hines:

The crowd, I just said I just said maybe a lot of them are the most of VW faithful. They knew to boo Tony Evans.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. They sure did.

Brian Hines:

Which was awesome.

Jackman Ochs:

But he's so good at working a crowd into a frenzy like that. Like I said, before, and I think I even said during our our talk with him, he's gotta be the the best on Mike in OVW. If there's somebody better than that, who? Maybe Carson Drake? Maybe not?

Brian Hines:

Well, here's the thing.

Jackman Ochs:

For me, it's superior to Tony Evans.

Brian Hines:

There's these there's this idea. Uh-oh. It's called this heat. Right? It's an umbrella idea.

Brian Hines:

There's 2 sections under heat. One of them is called heat still, and that one's called fuck you heat. Tony Evans has heat, Carson Drake. I don't know. I'll leave that up for you to decide.

Brian Hines:

Okay. Tustin chains were about 4. They're in this ongoing program with Beaches and Cream. Really liked this match here because it of all of the matches, it it made the most sense, I guess, out of who was paired together Yes. In in terms of ongoing OVW storyline.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. This has been going on since, tough love. So well, I guess, the week the Thursday before tough love, which would be, February 8th, if I remember right. So this has been going on for, like, 3 weeks, but the back and forth between these two teams is is pretty intense. And, they it was wow.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay, Jess. Okay. Yeah. So tag We're talking about

Brian Hines:

peaches and cream took home the win over tusks over. I don't want no tusks and chains. This is also, like, kind of one of those things. Like, I haven't it's been a long time since I've seen an OVW house show. I don't think we've been to 1 since we've been together as a podcast group, have we?

TyniBrian:

Not that one. To Manchester.

Brian Hines:

I did make it to the Manchester. This is my 1st Manchester out of 2. Yeah. So I'm 5050 at this point, batting 500. But the the great thing about wrestling shows like this, especially OVW where these guys or at least the way you're used to seeing them inside of OVW is television formatted.

Brian Hines:

This was a non television formatted show. It's just a between, these are my favorite things to go to where it's just wrestling. And, you also with that, you get a lot of bullshit that can happen. I I use bullshit as, like, a nice way, which is how you end up with Donovan Cecil and t w three dancing.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. They had a, a a dance lesson.

Brian Hines:

And Donovan Cecil doing the worm. Mhmm.

Jackman Ochs:

He sure did. And it was fantastic.

Brian Hines:

It was awesome.

TyniBrian:

More of that, please.

Brian Hines:

Dude, and, like, listen. I this is my job to come come on here and complain about OVW every week. At a show, at a Davis Arena Thursday night show, that's the type of thing I would've complained about. But at a big show like this where it's, like, casual fans and we're not worried about TV time and that's what I like.

Jackman Ochs:

It was it was perfect.

Brian Hines:

It was just fun. It was just, gooey and heartwarming and fuzzy.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Brian Hines:

Speaking of, like, kind of, like, matches, you know, we said, oh, Tustin chains and Beaches and Cream makes so much sense as opposed like, for what we see, not as opposed to, but for what we see week to week in, OVW. This was something that kinda came out of left field, Ryan Von Rocket versus Jack Von.

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. Given, the angle between, Ryan Von Rocket and Carson Drake, I fully expected to see something like that, but I'm sure that, Carson Drake had other commitments at, perhaps, say, a house show somewhere within 2 hours or so, but, it was it was good to see, Jack Von and Ryan Von Rocket. It. It was a a good match, but ultimately, the title did not change hands and, Jack Von, was the winner.

Brian Hines:

Well, and just no question there, man. Jack Von is so clearly the dude. Yeah. Like and especially with, like, that belt, some of these other belts can kinda get, like, lost in Gaga, and that's fine because that's what, like, what they're supposed to do. But that belt having a guy with Jack Von on it, just wrestling a good match week in and week out is, like, that's what you do.

Brian Hines:

That's why you have a Jack Von there. And that's why you have that kind of belt. Right?

Jackman Ochs:

Yeah. And and we got extra guitar playing from Ryan Von Rocket, which I appreciated. I got to talk to him for a minute after after the show, and I'm hoping that, he'll come and and talk with us at some point.

Brian Hines:

Me too. Me too. He's kind of an elusive guy. Like, we get the chance, like, luck luckily to, like, talk to these people week in and week out. Ryan Von Rocket is always, moving.

Brian Hines:

Like Well, I mean,

TyniBrian:

he's He

Jackman Ochs:

he is a rock star, and

Brian Hines:

he's he's got

Jackman Ochs:

an entourage. So I'm I'm surprised he doesn't have time for a middle aged white dude such as myself.

Brian Hines:

That's not me complaining, but it is just, like, kind of that's me speaking to him and as a person. It's like, he it seems like he always has something to do. It's if if it's not wrestling, it's band music stuff. If it's not band music stuff, it's work. It just, like

Jackman Ochs:

Well, I mean, you can't stop

Brian Hines:

The Rock. Well, exactly. Never will. I I just, like, he has to

TyniBrian:

do a lot to earn the money for that glitter.

Jackman Ochs:

Sure. Yeah. It's a

Brian Hines:

lot of glitter, man. And Claire's are, they don't they don't cut discounts like that. No. They just don't.

TyniBrian:

They just don't. Levels of dick glitter. He needs it.

Brian Hines:

About 6 from that Manchester Music Hall Show, the women's championship, Leila Gray, the current holder.

TyniBrian:

Mhmm.

Brian Hines:

Braces Hollywood, Haley Jay.

Jackman Ochs:

Fan favorite.

Brian Hines:

So at the when you guys went, it was Cal Hero who won off the Adam Revolver. Right? Rest of it in championship. Yes. Yes.

Brian Hines:

At the 1st Manchester Music Hall. That's right. If I had circled any of these matches for a title change

Jackman Ochs:

This would have been it?

Brian Hines:

That would have been it. But having said that, I don't think they made the wrong decision. I think Hailey is a lot better when she's chasing. Not that she's ever bad, but I think that it serves her and the way they write her character a lot better when she has someone to win something from as opposed to defend.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay. That's fair.

Brian Hines:

So we're getting we're getting to the end of the night. Couple things too. I was really, really, really happy that they didn't put the only women's singles here in what is traditionally called the death spot, which would have been about 7, with Maha Bali Sheer, Luke Curtis, and DC 3. That's just like that is one of the oldest things that people complain about wrestling is putting women in the penultimate spot. They didn't do it here.

Brian Hines:

I thought that was really good, but, like, it also if we're looking from a booking perspective, it speaks a lot to how much people like these guys or are willing to watch these guys that what is the death spot, Maha Bali Sheer, Luke Curtis, and EC 3 got. That's awesome. Yeah. Like, that that that's a that means that you have a wealth of talent on the roster.

Jackman Ochs:

A plethora of talented individuals. Yeah.

TyniBrian:

I think it defies the idea of the death spot.

Brian Hines:

I think it does. Actually, that would be I would have never put it that way, but that would be a sentiment I agree with is, like, man, when you have stars, there's not a death spot anymore because that means you've built everybody to be the biggest that they possibly can be.

Jackman Ochs:

And Yeah. Although it's a valid point.

Brian Hines:

Although I complain about OVW and don't understand it all the time, like, the one thing I can never say is that everyone that's built isn't kind of where they should be. I might build them different, but everyone that's built is where they should be. That's just me.

TyniBrian:

And that was a great triple threat match too.

Brian Hines:

Absolutely. Absolutely. I loved it. Loved

Jackman Ochs:

it. That was probably, what one probably the best moment of the whole entire night for me happened right before that match. And that was when certified Luke Curtis came out, because I was right along the barricade, right at the entrance, and we had talked a little bit in the, chat on YouTube the night before. And, he's, you know, a friend of the show. He's been here a couple of times.

Jackman Ochs:

He was

TyniBrian:

at it this point, I'm willing to call him a correspondent.

Jackman Ochs:

Okay. Yeah.

TyniBrian:

Yeah. Give that man a title.

Jackman Ochs:

Certified correspondent.

TyniBrian:

Yeah.

Jackman Ochs:

But, I don't hate it. My my the the moment of the night for me was when he comes out, and he looks like a $1,000,000

Brian Hines:

Always.

Jackman Ochs:

With the robe and the the sequence and all that, and he he does his pose, and then he just kinda, like, turns his head ever so slightly and looks at me out of the corner of his eye and just gets his grin on his face, like, you're about to see some something. Stuff. Yeah. And sure enough, we did. So I thoroughly enjoyed that and appreciate that one little moment because, just getting a look like that before they go and have a match like that was just something really, really special for me.

Jackman Ochs:

So I I would like to say that I appreciate that. Thank you very much.

Brian Hines:

I also like to talk about, like, I have these new friends that they go to wrestling all the time and it's like fun to see it through their eyes. And, like, I've I like to touch in with them, every once in a while. The only daddy that didn't the only daddy I guess, the this is a 3 person match of the people they call daddy, 2 young ladies. The only person that's matched that they don't call daddy is the one that won EC 3. They love Luke Curtis.

Brian Hines:

They love Maha Bali. How could you not, really? Sure. Mixed tag match here at the end. Thought it was a little weird to set this here at the end, but thought it was really smart to keep cash flow off of the ring until the very end.

TyniBrian:

And it was a local heat thing because everybody hate Shane and the dude.

Brian Hines:

Well no. So here's the thing, man. Here's the thing about these Lexington shows and about these, like, casual viewer shows that come in OVW, and I'm not complaining about people new people coming to spend money in OVW. That's the last thing I've complained about. I've seen this time and time and time again in my OVW experiences.

Brian Hines:

No one expects to hate Shannon.

Jackman Ochs:

Just like no one expects the Spanish inquisition.

Brian Hines:

Everybody a lot of the people here I'm not gonna say everybody here, but I will say that there was a large majority of people here who thought when Shannon was gonna come out, they were supposed to clap for him. And they got shown very quickly, you're not supposed to clap for this little douchebag.

Jackman Ochs:

No. Not at all.

TyniBrian:

No. The I I mean, I was sitting there the old as every time Eric mentioned Shannon, and he did bring him up several times Yes. Of course, the evening. Yeah.

Jackman Ochs:

Well, there's a lot

TyniBrian:

of There was no love for, for Shannon.

Brian Hines:

A lot of people there are only there to see Shannon. Like Well, yeah,

TyniBrian:

there's a lot of KSR people here Yeah. For this sort of a show.

Brian Hines:

And that's what I mean is, like, they're not used to disliking Shannon. If you don't listen to KSR, Shannon's the only guy that people always like. It's everyone else that everyone hates.

Jackman Ochs:

In this universe, it is the opposite.

Brian Hines:

But it is the complete opposite. I think that, honestly, man, I like Shannon a lot. I've liked him for a long time. Met him a handful of times. He's always been the nicest guy in the world to me.

Brian Hines:

The nicest guy in the world to me. But it is so funny, man. He has this fucking jeer, this smile Mhmm.

TyniBrian:

That is just makes you sick to your stomach. Yeah. He has a look that he does not get at at KSR. No. That he only it's and and there's a little bit of a a wiggle to his head when he does it.

Brian Hines:

Oh, he's

TyniBrian:

And he's

Brian Hines:

disgusting. He actually makes me sick to my stomach. Yeah. And, Shannon, keep that in mind, buddy. Keep that in mind.

Jackman Ochs:

So nice part.

Brian Hines:

You couldn't do what I do, buddy. I do it every week. You do it you you might do 10 hours a day of it, whatever. I do 2 hours a day. That's more than your 10 hours a week, buddy.

Brian Hines:

Just keep that one in mind. See you. Listen. It's see you at that see you at that radio championship, baby. Take us away, Brian.

Brian Hines:

The OVW No. No. No. No. Wait.

Brian Hines:

Wait. Wait. What? What? Linda Kane Cash Flow in the match.

Brian Hines:

Take us away, bro.

Jackman Ochs:

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Jackman Ochs:

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Jackman Ochs:

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Creators and Guests

Brian Hines
Host
Brian Hines
Southern Ohio native, life long wrestling fan, connoisseur of cups of damn fine coffee.
Jackman Ochs
Host
Jackman Ochs
Host of WRFL’s “Asleep At The Wheel”
Malachi Woodard
Editor
Malachi Woodard
Sound boards and editing bays.
Producer
"Tyni" Brian K Woodard
Co founder of BlackLiteMoon Productions, host of BlueGrass HomeFront.
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Victor Anderson
Producer
Victor Anderson
The boss.
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OVWP 32 “Bloom and Bud” Covering OVW Rise 1280, February 22, 2024

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